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Loopy Pro - loop behavior on different pages
I have been struggling with this issue for a while. Here is an example scenario:
I have a project with two pages
Page A has a loop that is 2 bars long
Page B has a loop that is 5 bars long
I use the "switch page" function and chose the option "Switch - stop playing the current page, switch and start playing the new one."
The problem is the default behavior is the loops on page B keep in time with the clock even while page A is playing.
So, when I switch to Page B it starts in the middle of the loops on page B rather than at the beginning of the loops.
I thought I solved the problem by going to the top right menu and choosing "Clip settings" and turning off "Phase Lock Loops." Phase lock keeps loops in sync with the clock even when they are not playing.
However, I still run into issues with loops not starting at the beginning of the loop when I switch pages. This typically happens with loops that don't have a divisible number of bars. If I have 4 bar loops on one page and 8 bar loops on a second page, I am usually ok. However, if I have 4 bar loops on one page and 5 or 6 bar loops on another page, I cannot change pages and get the loops to start at the beginning.
My preferred behavior would be that loops on a non-active page are all stopped (the little clock indicator is not spinning around the loop) and when I switch to that page using the "switch page" function, the loops start at the beginning of the loop.
I don't understand why this would not be the default behavior.
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What are the play and stop quantize settings? There are a number of settings that interact. It would be helpful if you posted screen shots of the global clip settings and and the settings of individual clips or colors that have their own settings.
What is happening is that loopy tells the clips on page 1 to stop and the clips on page 2 to play. Both are influenced by any relevant quantize settings.
For instance, if the loop on page is 8 bars long and stop is set to loop , that loop will play till it stops. If the loop on page 2 is 4 bars long and set to loop quantize , it might start playing before the loop on page 1 is done.
You might want to set the quantize for the page switch to use master or custom so that all loops have the same quantization.
@dwilson11111117 : to have a better sense of what quantize settings, put the loops on the same page . While loop 1 is playing tap loop 1 and loop 2 and observe the count-in and count-out animation.
In addition to changing from Phase Locked to Free, you just need to turn "Play Quantization" and "Stop Quantization" off in the clip playback settings.
The default seems sensible to me, but of course everyone's workflow is different.
Thanks for the reply. This gives me several things to test.
So, far the only thing I have tried is turning off phase lock. I have not tried changing play and stop quanitzation settings for the project. All my clips are set to use the project playback quantization settings, which are default. I will experiment with these and well as the quantization settings in my “switch page” commands.
You can change it at the Global Clip Settings if that's what you want as the default. It can also be set at the Color or individual clip levels. Whatever makes sense.
BTW, the way I tested before posting was to create a 4 bar clip on page A and a 5 bar clip on page B. Then I put a button on Page A to switch to Page B, and vice-versa. I set the quantization on the buttons to None also.
The key difference between phased lock and non-phased lock loops is that a phase-lock loop’s playhead is always running. Start/stop is essentially unmute and mute. Non-phase-locked loops (free loops) have play heads that do not run when they are stopped. Starting them sets the playhead to the bro.
See my posts up-thread and my suggestion to put your loops on the same page to be able to see the count-in/out animation. It will help you understand what is going on. Details up-thread.
Btw, this may help demonstrate phase-lock vs. free loop behavior
I've replied via video on your post to the facebook group, @dwilson11111117 - https://www.facebook.com/groups/loopypro/posts/585110343804752