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“Pianism” (Hypnosis Through Repetition)

I was looking through my Mozaic Folder for interesting scripts and after a few false starts I settled on a Step Sequencer I made and loaded up 5 copies.

My targets were a PianoTeq8 and Xinematix instance.

I find it to be a bit of an ear worm that is comforting due to the excessive repetition of just a few themes.

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  • This is nice, getting Steve Reich vibes here. Great how the overlay of simple motifs can lead to this… brilliant!

  • @ik2000 said:
    This is nice, getting Steve Reich vibes here. Great how the overlay of simple motifs can lead to this… brilliant!

    Thank you sir. I appreciate the time and feedback. I define barely thought the Steve Reich vibe made me value the results because his stuff is mezmering in such a deep way. I think it generates alpha waves or something like that.

  • i like the sound, on the piano, that comes in halfway

  • 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👉🏻👉🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • edited July 2023

    Also reminds me of a (calmer!) version of the player piano works by Nancarrow, e.g.:

    (Can’t help but think his career would have been entirely different if he had encountered piano roll as a midi concept rather than as a physical medium, mind…)

    “Nancarrow undertook to create music which would superimpose tempi in cogent pieces and, by his twenty-first composition for player piano, he had begun "sliding" (increasing and decreasing) tempi within strata. (See William Duckworth, Talking Music.) Nancarrow later said he had been interested in exploring electronic resources but that the piano rolls ultimately gave him more temporal control over his music.” - quoted in his Wikipedia entry.

    The composer György Ligeti described the music of Conlon Nancarrow as "the greatest discovery since Webern and Ives ... something great and important for all music history! His music is so utterly original, enjoyable, perfectly constructed, but at the same time emotional ... for me it's the best music of any composer living today."

    So, you know, @McD: you could be on to something! Yours is a lovely piece. Even - mesmerising! :)

  • edited July 2023

    Excellent piece. I think you’re onto something with this approach. I listened twice.

  • Definitely agree this is good approach. I have tried similar things using Piano Motifs. Each generated motif has 2 parts. I think of them as left and right hands. You can mix and match motifs and hands using keys and modes that “should” sound good. Or, you can just get experimental. I have spent hours hoping for a result like this. Very well done!

  • @Paulieworld said:
    Definitely agree this is good approach. I have tried similar things using Piano Motifs. Each generated motif has 2 parts. I think of them as left and right hands. You can mix and match motifs and hands using keys and modes that “should” sound good. Or, you can just get experimental. I have spent hours hoping for a result like this. Very well done!

    This is made by loading up 4 step sequencers with 16 to 32 note sequences that loop. They can be staggered in start and stop as Mozaic instances and they will use their own clock and NOT sync to the DAW’s MIDI clock so you get interesting alignments that make s it sound more human and less machine like.

    FYI: Piano Motifs outputs multi-part MIDI files that import into Staffpad across multiple staves. Moving the parts to assigned instruments is easy and is finger work so I made this without using the pencil once.

  • I know what I’ll be doing this weekend. Disregard that last comment about a government song. This sounds more better.

    I didn’t know that I could import MIDI into StaffPad. That’s a game changer for me. Thanks!

  • @Paulieworld said:
    I know what I’ll be doing this weekend. Disregard that last comment about a government song. This sounds more better.

    I didn’t know that I could import MIDI into StaffPad. That’s a game changer for me. Thanks!

    When Staffpad starts it presents an Import button and you use the file system to select the specific file. When I export from Paino Motifs I deposit the file in a “StaffPad” folder where I tend to keep imports and audio exports. The “” trick is to make it first in the listing for “On My IPad”.

  • Cool piece, thanks for sharing McD!

  • edited July 2023

    In Pianism, I liked the clarity of the first half. I’m hearing pizzicato strings and some French horns.

  • Nice piece @McD! Great mix and staggering of those beautiful ostinatos.

  • @zvon said:
    Cool piece, thanks for sharing McD!

    Thanks… I need to check out your recent posting.

    @Paulieworld said:
    In Pianism, I liked the clarity of the first half. I’m hearing pizzicato strings and some French horns.

    Yes. Putting these loops into Staffpad for Pizz strings and adding some horn parts or loops at 1/2 or 1/4 speed
    Since horns don’t do crisp short notes well. Mallets are good along with piano for the faster notes.

    @azul3D_Apps said:
    Nice piece @McD! Great mix and staggering of those beautiful ostinatos.

    Thanks… I hope there these ideas you can “steal” for your wonderful app. When I make the loops I’m always
    Thinking of a scale based on some chord like Cmaj9 in this case. I pick notes from those scale and use passing notes
    Between them but never hit those passing notes on a strong pulse. So, when layers of these loops are played it ends up just ringing out that chords tonality. Because the loops are so busy you don’t fret so much over parallel 5ths or octaves. Obviously I could change the key centers every 4 or 8 bars and make something a lot more interesting as a composition. I wish Piano Motifs would spit out these busy 16th or 8th note patterns that follow the defined chords as an option and have 3-5 layers all running at once. With multi-track output we could just bring various layers up or down in a live mix.

  • @McD said:
    Thanks… I hope there these ideas you can “steal” for your wonderful app. When I make the loops I’m always
    Thinking of a scale based on some chord like Cmaj9 in this case. I pick notes from those scale and use passing notes
    Between them but never hit those passing notes on a strong pulse. So, when layers of these loops are played it ends up just ringing out that chords tonality. Because the loops are so busy you don’t fret so much over parallel 5ths or octaves. Obviously I could change the key centers every 4 or 8 bars and make something a lot more interesting as a composition. I wish Piano Motifs would spit out these busy 16th or 8th note patterns that follow the defined chords as an option and have 3-5 layers all running at once. With multi-track output we could just bring various layers up or down in a live mix.

    @McD, probably not exactly what you're looking for, but you could have 2 or more PM instances running at different BPM multiples with respect to the Host in Sync mode. You can do this by setting a BPM multiple which you can find by long pressing the SYNC button (options are 1/4, 1/2, 1, 2). For staggered entry, you can set the Delay Start in the same screen. On the ostinato side (again, probably not exactly what you're looking for) you can select either the Tonic Arpeggio in both the Accomp Style or the Melody Constraint. You could also define your own sequence in the Arpeggio Seq and setting Tonic to On. You can then use the "Accomp Rest Every N Bars" to either 2, 4 or 8 bars so that the ostinato isn't played on every bar.

  • @McD said:

    This is made by loading up 4 step sequencers with 16 to 32 note sequences that loop. They can be staggered in start and stop as Mozaic instances and they will use their own clock and NOT sync to the DAW’s MIDI clock so you get interesting alignments that make s it sound more human and less machine like.

    FYI: Piano Motifs outputs multi-part MIDI files that import into Staffpad across multiple staves. Moving the parts to assigned instruments is easy and is finger work so I made this without using the pencil once.

    Oh it ended too quickly- before I could get hypnotized .

  • Excellent, ear worms all over the place here 👂🪱

  • Lovely stuff McD, this is my second listen!

  • McDMcD
    edited July 2023

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  • @Gavinski said:
    Lovely stuff McD, this is my second listen!

    Thanks.

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