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Plate reverbs with ducking?

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  • GavinskiGavinski
    edited July 2023

    @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Are Lunar Lander (not even available on the appstore any more, of course) and AltiSpace 2 the only reverbs that have both a plate reverb emulation and a ducking option?

    What's wrong with ADverb2 and duck it properly with the compressor of your choice?!

    Nothing wrong with it but many people prefer a simple all in one solution and I'm thinking of doing a plate reverb comparison vid

  • LuxthorLuxthor

    @Gavinski said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Are Lunar Lander (not even available on the appstore any more, of course) and AltiSpace 2 the only reverbs that have both a plate reverb emulation and a ducking option?

    What's wrong with ADverb2 and duck it properly with the compressor of your choice?!

    Nothing wrong with it but many people prefer a simple all in one solution and I'm thinking of doing a plate reverb comparison vid

    Then use phenomenal Altispace2, integrated ducking and all legendary digital plate reverbs:

    • EMT 140 Reverberation Unit - the first plate reverb.
    • AMS RMX-16
    • Eventide H8000
    • Lexicon 300, 224, PCM 70
    • Roland DEP-3
    • Ursa Major StarGate 323

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @ecou said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Gdub said:
    I have lunar lander but didn’t by the 3rd plate option before it left the App Store
    That still hurts me

    I bought it, they turned tail and ran away from the App Store and now Lunar Lander is a costly digital doorstop on my iPad Pro.

    What appended to the dev? It was gone from the store before I even knew it existed

    That’s great news! I absolutely love Lunar Lander so seeing them return would be very welcome. I don’t regret buying it as I got a ton of use out of it and still use it to this day.

    Yes but they didn't return that winter. Will they ever? Who knows. I remember the dev was overjoyed that people bought the iap and they had a good ranking in the app store, at least briefly. But frankly, it seems that in the music app charts almost any new AUv3 that's even half decent can get a good ranking for a day or two while the app addicts get their fix. Only long term sales to more casual users will pay the bills. It was crazy of the devs to give almost everything in the app away for free, the ten bucks iap covered only a few things like the largest plate reverb and the damping controls etc. So if they failed on the platform it was at least partly due to their own bad sales and marketing strategy.

    Oh man I thought that was a new post. Sad news. I just realized that was from last year. I hope it’s still on their minds but I gotta agree with you. As much as we all want free and as often as possible, it’s not sustainable for any dev. They should’ve done a trial and made the entire app paid for $20 or something. It would still be worth it at that price, imo. I personally never bought the IAP, as I’m sure many didn’t. Had they not taken that route, I feel like we would still have them on the platform.

    Yeah, could have all worked out very differently. Sometimes devs are good at dev stuff but terrible at other stuff that you need in order to both make money yourself and stay in the game long enough to give value to your users and build up trust. I would think trust is pretty much shattered for that dev on iOS now. I'd certainly think twice before making a vid on anything new they brought out

    Agreed. They kinda screwed themselves because after that, in order to sell anything, they’d have to mark it down considerably to regain trust and get people to invest in their apps again. I would be hesitant to buy as well and would likely wait for a good while before I took the plunge to make sure it doesn’t end up the same again. Bummer of a situation all around.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Are Lunar Lander (not even available on the appstore any more, of course) and AltiSpace 2 the only reverbs that have both a plate reverb emulation and a ducking option?

    What's wrong with ADverb2 and duck it properly with the compressor of your choice?!

    Nothing wrong with it but many people prefer a simple all in one solution and I'm thinking of doing a plate reverb comparison vid

    Then use phenomenal Altispace2, integrated ducking and all legendary digital plate reverbs:

    • EMT 140 Reverberation Unit - the first plate reverb.
    • AMS RMX-16
    • Eventide H8000
    • Lexicon 300, 224, PCM 70
    • Roland DEP-3
    • Ursa Major StarGate 323

    I’ve owned AltiSpace for so long and somehow missed the ducking options this entire time 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Gavinski said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Are Lunar Lander (not even available on the appstore any more, of course) and AltiSpace 2 the only reverbs that have both a plate reverb emulation and a ducking option?

    What's wrong with ADverb2 and duck it properly with the compressor of your choice?!

    Nothing wrong with it but many people prefer a simple all in one solution and I'm thinking of doing a plate reverb comparison vid

    That would be awesome! I’d definitely watch even though I have them all already 😂 to my knowledge no one’s done a plate reverb comparison video for iOS yet.

  • Mountain_HamletMountain_Hamlet

    @HotStrange said:

    @Mountain_Hamlet said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Montreal_Music said:
    What is "ducking"?

    Ducking/side chaining is the same. I may not be technical enough to properly explain it but it’s using a compressor, usually, the get a synth pad or some other sound to “duck” under a transient to create that classic thumping motion.

    In a basic explanation it is using one sound to lower the volume of another. The usual technique is to pass the sound you want to lower through a compressor circuit with the threshold of the compressor being triggered by the sound you want to be louder. It’s not just for thumping.

    Oh yeah I know that, was just trying to point out a more obvious use case for someone that maybe didn’t know what it was. That’s usually the go to example I use if someone hasn’t heard of it before because they’ve most likely heard it used and didn’t know.

    Cool. I just wanted to make sure that the broader understanding was there. Didn’t want anyone to get a limited picture of the potentials of the technique.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Mountain_Hamlet said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Mountain_Hamlet said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Montreal_Music said:
    What is "ducking"?

    Ducking/side chaining is the same. I may not be technical enough to properly explain it but it’s using a compressor, usually, the get a synth pad or some other sound to “duck” under a transient to create that classic thumping motion.

    In a basic explanation it is using one sound to lower the volume of another. The usual technique is to pass the sound you want to lower through a compressor circuit with the threshold of the compressor being triggered by the sound you want to be louder. It’s not just for thumping.

    Oh yeah I know that, was just trying to point out a more obvious use case for someone that maybe didn’t know what it was. That’s usually the go to example I use if someone hasn’t heard of it before because they’ve most likely heard it used and didn’t know.

    Cool. I just wanted to make sure that the broader understanding was there. Didn’t want anyone to get a limited picture of the potentials of the technique.

    Definitely. I didn’t even think to mention the other examples but those are all great representations as well. It’s a very useful technique for sure.

  • gusgranitegusgranite

    @Gavinski said:

    @gusgranite said:
    Kleverb has a well featured ducker section.

    Yes, kleverb is great, don't think it has a plate emulation tho?

    Ah, you might be right.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Are Lunar Lander (not even available on the appstore any more, of course) and AltiSpace 2 the only reverbs that have both a plate reverb emulation and a ducking option?

    What's wrong with ADverb2 and duck it properly with the compressor of your choice?!

    Nothing wrong with it but many people prefer a simple all in one solution and I'm thinking of doing a plate reverb comparison vid

    Then use phenomenal Altispace2, integrated ducking and all legendary digital plate reverbs:

    • EMT 140 Reverberation Unit - the first plate reverb.
    • AMS RMX-16
    • Eventide H8000
    • Lexicon 300, 224, PCM 70
    • Roland DEP-3
    • Ursa Major StarGate 323

    Yes, I think it is one of the better choices for sure

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