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“Descent to Diablo” (4 x “Scaler 2”’s for the arrangement)
I’m constantly looking for lazy ass ways to get something coherent without too much work.
This arrangement is build on 4 instances of Scaler 2. All 4 are set to the same chord progression/scale (C Harmonic).
The 4 Scaler 2’s differ in the “performance” selection as follows:
- Bass Melody pointed at iFretless bass
- Arpeggio Up/Down at a Pianoteq Instance
- Arpeggio Down/Up at another Pianoteq instance
- Fast Strummer at PianoTeq Guitar
I added a track of MidEast Drummer.
Then I played Steel Guitar Pro over the top.
UPDATE: There’s also a rendering of the Scaler 2 parts in Staffpad:
Comments
Definitely has the Ennio Morricone vibe. I think a little more low end, and a bit more reverb on the steel guitar would sound nice. Nice track.
Thanks. Now I want to send the 4 instances of Scaler 2 into a Mozaic script that will change the MIDI channels across 0-15 so I can record all those parts in Atom 2 and import them into Staffpad. Scaler 2 decided that the bass should be Channel 2 and the upper parts 3-6 going up. Unfortunately, Staffpad shows MIDI channels from 2-6 with the bass on top. That’s makes is harder to copy all the parts and drop it onto a string orchestra so the Mozaic script will need to fix that. Bottom line… 16 parts transfer with no pencil entry. I hope it goes off as planned.
Really sweet spaghetti western song! I didn't know I wasn't following you on SoundCloud yet but now I am! I love it mate!
Thanks.
Quick hack to re-route 4 Scaler 2 MIDI outputs across more channels and record in Atom 2.
I then exported the MIDI file from Atom 2 and imported into Staffpad and assigned instruments.
There was a little pencil work to add trills to the Marimba and Brass.
It’s sounds like a classic Hitchcock score filler for tension.
Expect more experiments routing Scaler 2 MIDI into Staffpad to shortcut all the pencil notations.
I like the intro a lot. I think the French horns were too loud and came in too soon. Take your time. I would take out the marimbas. Save them for a big finish with some big percussion. Bring it up slowly. Just my 2 cents, but I would love to hear you put a few days into this and build out a full composition. This isn’t soundtrack, it’s symphonic. This is really good to my ears. Take your time. Go big, but go slower, with a curve. I have all the time in the world to listen to a great composition.
I’m getting some unintended surprises from Scaler 2. I’ll keep digging and see if I can master its options. I also suspect that
this overpaying several arpeggio options with a strum and some chordal output all based on shared chord progressions if like what you might be getting out of Piano Motifs.
But the big payoff for me will be hearing the layered Scaler 2 rendered by AUv3 apps and then exporting the multi-part MIDI into Staffpad. I just hope I don’t hit a bunch of MIDI bugs in Staffpad as I have in the past. I think I’ve been on this quest for years now: the Lazy Ass Composition Workflow.
I’m sorry for ignoring your steady stream of suggestions… I’m still learning this complex instrument and I’m not ready to finish anything. At the end, I will amassed a large body of unfinished works.
Oh yes… thanks for the comment.
The MIDI piano roll editor is your friend. Please finish this. Force it. It’s very good.
Which piano roll editor? Cubasis 2|3? or Atom 2|3?
I have Atom, but I just seem to use the Cubasis editor. I've grown accustomed to it, even with it's quirks. I like to use it in combination with apps that generate MIDI data. Sometimes an app will create something that's really good, in my opinion, but it needs to be tweaked a little. I could spend hours waiting for the perfect phrase, but sometimes it's just easier to force the one I have.
My last post is a good example of the brute force method. I started out with an opening line generated in Riffler. I was determined to get a 3 minute song out of it somehow. I cranked out a few more Riffler audio and MIDI phrases and just started beating on it. I didn't spend much time thinking about anything. I just started, as Monty Python said, putting things on top of other things. When a section sounded like it needed something I just thought... how about some strings? I used the built-in strings in Cubasis and punched in some notes in the editor. Individually, they don't sound great, but do sound believable in context. The whole track sounds completely contrived, and I'm sure you can hear the edits since you know how I did them. Sometimes, I think something interesting happens when you abandon music theory and technology, and just go for it.
When I heard the first 7 seconds of Hitch Cocked, I was jazzed. It reminded me of something by a Russian composer whose name starts with S. Take your pick. I sat back for a nice listen. I had my coffee and all the time in the world. I think you could really develop this piece. I think of how Ravel wrote Bolero. Start with a simple idea, then start putting things on top of other things.
I'm no music expert, so take this for what it's worth. I hope you finish this one. It's better than mere soundtrack filler. It's a good start to a really good composition. Just force it up slowly. I think you could get 10 minutes out of this.
Does anyone want to see/play with the MIDI files Scaler 2 has generated from Scaler 2? I do NOT request any credit or rights to the resulting projects. I’m just curious to see how folks like @Paulieworld that build large works from MIDI go forward.
Here’s a collection of Scaler 2 MIDI’s I have generated in my recent experiments. You will see a lot of issues like a bass line that gets distributed across multiple midi channels.
The clip used in this project is “Clip 7/5*”. (As a Unix hack the / in the filename drives me crazy). That’s the precious character Bill Gates changed to \ when his company released DOS. Perhaps early OS folks will also claim and interest in / or \ in their file tree syntax.
I was a Linux guy myself. LAMP in particular. Made a nice living for several years. All free and well documented. Have you ever coded in Perl? Now that’s a butt ugly mess! I still remove all punctuation from file names. Old habits die hard.
Yes… I had an engineering job for a computer sales organization and the sales entry folks would transfer sales documents from quote to order manually doing data entry into a old billing/sales system that used a “terminal interface” for the input. I dug deep into Perk scripts to extract the fields from Excel docs and “type” them into the Sales Entry system. On the first before Christmas order for 12 IBM Systems came in and the typical data entry time to enter an order like this was 3 hours of manual typing. The whole office went offsite for the Xmas Party and one inside sales rep and I stayed to start entering these 12 systems. When the “data entry guru” that expected to spend the whole weekend entering the orders we reported that my Perl script entered them all in under an hour… there were some filed errors in the Excel so some orders required the inside rep to fix the errors and provide new Excel docs. The IT guy found out about the script and had management tell me I couldn’t use it… too much room for “errors” getting into the system. Funny… the system reported typos but “programming” bad and humans checking was considered better. Less than a month later I had a new job working for a competitor and I kept making tools to
eliminate manual data entry. Perl3 made me just move on to Python and Ruby. LAMP still makes sense for Python and Ruby mandated Rails. Like you say… good income for having these skills at that time.
Sounds like “IT Guy” had some job security issues. I hated Perl… and Larry Wall. I never met him, but I’m sure he’s a complete jagoff (that’s a Chicago thing). He would brag “There’s more than one way to do it.” To which I would have said, “Yeah, but there’s only one right way”. I did a few projects in Python. You gotta love a platform with a Cheese Shop! I’m pining for the fjords.
Decent to Diablo is good! I really like your Steel Guitar playing @McD
Now Hitch-Cocked is really really good! Love it!
Big fan of Hitch Cocked. Very cool piece. And I love the idea of lazy arse composition
Both very good but Hitch won out for me… so evocative of that type / era of film.
I’ve never got on with Scaler 2 but will have to find the time after listening to this !
Loved both of these. Quirky goodness!