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IPAD Logic pro plugins for Mandolin, Fiddle, harmonica, banjo

does anyone know here I can find these?

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  • Even on desktop it’s hard to find good harmonica patches or plugins. I’ve had to modify and create my own for some time.

  • Yeah for some reason Harmonica seems really hard to nail down. Even in apps that have otherwise great sounding samples, I find the harmonica always lacks something. Maybe best to use sampled loops or something. For everything else, there’s some stuff on Pianobook and some decent SoundFonts. PSP has some great sounding samples too.

  • edited August 2023

    The only Harmonica I’ve seen on iOS is the one in Thumbjam…

    Oooh, also Banjo and Mandolin is present in Thumbjam…

  • @HotStrange said:
    Yeah for some reason Harmonica seems really hard to nail down. Even in apps that have otherwise great sounding samples, I find the harmonica always lacks something. Maybe best to use sampled loops or something. For everything else, there’s some stuff on Pianobook and some decent SoundFonts. PSP has some great sounding samples too.

    The lack of a good model to simulate both in and out breaths make harmonica simulations completely lifeless. Perhaps some adventurous developer will take a shot at it at some point.

  • edited August 2023

    Learn to play harmonica. Diatonic harmonica isn’t too hard to pick up (chromatic is harder), and you could probably be playing reasonably competently in a few weeks.

  • @NeuM said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Yeah for some reason Harmonica seems really hard to nail down. Even in apps that have otherwise great sounding samples, I find the harmonica always lacks something. Maybe best to use sampled loops or something. For everything else, there’s some stuff on Pianobook and some decent SoundFonts. PSP has some great sounding samples too.

    The lack of a good model to simulate both in and out breaths make harmonica simulations completely lifeless. Perhaps some adventurous developer will take a shot at it at some point.

    It would be such a niche product that I’m not sure any developer would want to spend time on it unless it was a part of a bigger app. A bluegrass groovebox anyone? 😂

  • @michael_m said:
    Learn to play harmonica. Diatonic harmonica isn’t too hard to pick up (chromatic is harder), and you could probably be playing reasonably competently in a few weeks.

    I mean sure but that’s not always the best route. If it weren’t for modeled instruments and samples. A lot of people just wouldn’t have the sounds at all. No one wants to learn to play 50 different instruments. Or have the space or time even if they did.

  • edited August 2023

    @HotStrange said:

    @NeuM said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Yeah for some reason Harmonica seems really hard to nail down. Even in apps that have otherwise great sounding samples, I find the harmonica always lacks something. Maybe best to use sampled loops or something. For everything else, there’s some stuff on Pianobook and some decent SoundFonts. PSP has some great sounding samples too.

    The lack of a good model to simulate both in and out breaths make harmonica simulations completely lifeless. Perhaps some adventurous developer will take a shot at it at some point.

    It would be such a niche product that I’m not sure any developer would want to spend time on it unless it was a part of a bigger app. A bluegrass groovebox anyone? 😂

    I use my custom harmonica sound for blues music. 😉 But it’s still nowhere near as good as a talented real player.

  • @NeuM said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @NeuM said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Yeah for some reason Harmonica seems really hard to nail down. Even in apps that have otherwise great sounding samples, I find the harmonica always lacks something. Maybe best to use sampled loops or something. For everything else, there’s some stuff on Pianobook and some decent SoundFonts. PSP has some great sounding samples too.

    The lack of a good model to simulate both in and out breaths make harmonica simulations completely lifeless. Perhaps some adventurous developer will take a shot at it at some point.

    It would be such a niche product that I’m not sure any developer would want to spend time on it unless it was a part of a bigger app. A bluegrass groovebox anyone? 😂

    I use my custom harmonica sound for blues music. 😉

    I don’t make blues personally but I do have a harmonica sitting around that I haven’t touched in years. Might break it out tonight just to mangle some samples from it.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @michael_m said:
    Learn to play harmonica. Diatonic harmonica isn’t too hard to pick up (chromatic is harder), and you could probably be playing reasonably competently in a few weeks.

    I mean sure but that’s not always the best route. If it weren’t for modeled instruments and samples. A lot of people just wouldn’t have the sounds at all. No one wants to learn to play 50 different instruments. Or have the space or time even if they did.

    It is the best route if you want to sound like the original instrument. Harmonica is definitely not easy to sample or play on a keyboard with the many articulations available on the real thing.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @NeuM said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @NeuM said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Yeah for some reason Harmonica seems really hard to nail down. Even in apps that have otherwise great sounding samples, I find the harmonica always lacks something. Maybe best to use sampled loops or something. For everything else, there’s some stuff on Pianobook and some decent SoundFonts. PSP has some great sounding samples too.

    The lack of a good model to simulate both in and out breaths make harmonica simulations completely lifeless. Perhaps some adventurous developer will take a shot at it at some point.

    It would be such a niche product that I’m not sure any developer would want to spend time on it unless it was a part of a bigger app. A bluegrass groovebox anyone? 😂

    I use my custom harmonica sound for blues music. 😉

    I don’t make blues personally but I do have a harmonica sitting around that I haven’t touched in years. Might break it out tonight just to mangle some samples from it.

    I have a full-size Hohner harmonica myself, but I’ve never bothered to really learn it. Another thing on my list of things to do before I die. 😂

  • @michael_m said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @michael_m said:
    Learn to play harmonica. Diatonic harmonica isn’t too hard to pick up (chromatic is harder), and you could probably be playing reasonably competently in a few weeks.

    I mean sure but that’s not always the best route. If it weren’t for modeled instruments and samples. A lot of people just wouldn’t have the sounds at all. No one wants to learn to play 50 different instruments. Or have the space or time even if they did.

    It is the best route if you want to sound like the original instrument. Harmonica is definitely not easy to sample or play on a keyboard with the many articulations available on the real thing.

    I’m not aiming for multisamples when I use something. I’m sampling it to mangle it and make it into something weird.

    Also best route for sound sure. But “learn to play it” is not the best answer to the question when that requires a lot of time, more money, additional space for what may be 1-2 isolated tracks. And when you account for every instrument someone would/could want, it makes “learn to play it” even less of a viable answer.

  • @NeuM said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @NeuM said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @NeuM said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Yeah for some reason Harmonica seems really hard to nail down. Even in apps that have otherwise great sounding samples, I find the harmonica always lacks something. Maybe best to use sampled loops or something. For everything else, there’s some stuff on Pianobook and some decent SoundFonts. PSP has some great sounding samples too.

    The lack of a good model to simulate both in and out breaths make harmonica simulations completely lifeless. Perhaps some adventurous developer will take a shot at it at some point.

    It would be such a niche product that I’m not sure any developer would want to spend time on it unless it was a part of a bigger app. A bluegrass groovebox anyone? 😂

    I use my custom harmonica sound for blues music. 😉

    I don’t make blues personally but I do have a harmonica sitting around that I haven’t touched in years. Might break it out tonight just to mangle some samples from it.

    I have a full-size Hohner harmonica myself, but I’ve never bothered to really learn it. Another thing on my list of things to do before I die. 😂

    That list gets bigger every day for me. By time I learn one I’ve added 5 more 😂

  • wimwim
    edited August 2023

    If you have a cat it's more than worth the cost of a harmonica to see its reaction.
    One of ours likes it and meows along (seriously). The look the other one gives me makes me a little nervous I may wake up without a face some day.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @michael_m said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @michael_m said:
    Learn to play harmonica. Diatonic harmonica isn’t too hard to pick up (chromatic is harder), and you could probably be playing reasonably competently in a few weeks.

    I mean sure but that’s not always the best route. If it weren’t for modeled instruments and samples. A lot of people just wouldn’t have the sounds at all. No one wants to learn to play 50 different instruments. Or have the space or time even if they did.

    It is the best route if you want to sound like the original instrument. Harmonica is definitely not easy to sample or play on a keyboard with the many articulations available on the real thing.

    I’m not aiming for multisamples when I use something. I’m sampling it to mangle it and make it into something weird.

    Also best route for sound sure. But “learn to play it” is not the best answer to the question when that requires a lot of time, more money, additional space for what may be 1-2 isolated tracks. And when you account for every instrument someone would/could want, it makes “learn to play it” even less of a viable answer.

    Seriously, if you can spare one hour every evening for 2 weeks you’ll sound good. You can also put one in your pocket and play whenever you get a chance. It’s easy to learn the basics and portable enough to take just about anywhere.

    Put in the effort and you get results, even with limited time if your instrument is portable.

  • @michael_m said:
    Learn to play harmonica. Diatonic harmonica isn’t too hard to pick up (chromatic is harder), and you could probably be playing reasonably competently in a few weeks.

    Interesting. I guess I hadn’t really thought about it, but I feel like chromatic was easier for me. I still can’t nail bends, and I feel like I can’t call myself a diatonic player if I can’t. 😄 I also find the regular layout of a chromatic easier. (Although I’ve got a few diatonics with regular layout tunings too, which I also like.)

    On the other hand, I’d started in diatonic, so maybe it just seemed easier.

  • @fisherro said:

    @michael_m said:
    Learn to play harmonica. Diatonic harmonica isn’t too hard to pick up (chromatic is harder), and you could probably be playing reasonably competently in a few weeks.

    Interesting. I guess I hadn’t really thought about it, but I feel like chromatic was easier for me. I still can’t nail bends, and I feel like I can’t call myself a diatonic player if I can’t. 😄 I also find the regular layout of a chromatic easier. (Although I’ve got a few diatonics with regular layout tunings too, which I also like.)

    On the other hand, I’d started in diatonic, so maybe it just seemed easier.

    Bends are not easy on chromatic, and in general it’s more of a diatonic style. You will probably only get about a half step bend from a chromatic, but as that’s the same as using the slide most people don’t bother. Bends are much easier on a diatonic, particularly draw bends, and you can easily get a whole step down on most holes.

    Diatonics are generally worth learning in two positions - first position which is essentially a major scale, and second position which is a minor scale. There are other positions, but it’s often easier to switch to a harmonica in a different key than to learn the various positions and the bends that go with them.

    If you have the patience, learn a scale in all 3 octaves on a diatonic including the bends to hit every note. Once you get the hang of it you’ll be surprised at how easy it is to hit those bends.

  • Closest thing I’ve come across on iOS is the Apesoft Accordion app. ThumbJam not good at all IMO.
    Otherwise I’d agree it’s not hard to learn. Get a Hohner Blues or Marine Band in the key of A and you’ll be able to play along to any 12 bar blues in E in no time.

  • @TimRussell said:
    Get a Hohner Blues or Marine Band in the key of A and you’ll be able to play along to any 12 bar blues in E in no time.

    Definitely agree with those choices. It’s not worth buying those super cheap ones as the sound from them is not great, and they’re often not made well so you can find some homes are harder to play than others.

    For anyone wondering why the recommendation is for an A diatonic for an E accompaniment, it’s because first position playing gives you the root key major scale, and second position (which is suitable for blues) gives you a minor scale with its root 7 half steps above the harmonica key.

  • @michael_m said:

    Bends are not easy on chromatic, and in general it’s more of a diatonic style.

    Yeah. That’s what I mean. I don’t feel like I can say I’m really a diatonic player if I can’t bend well. But I can call myself a chromatic player. 🙂

    I do have one of those Seydel buttonless chromatics which doesn’t have valves and is bendable. But for some reason I have a hard time getting a decent tone out of it even without bending.

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