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Help with Barricade ..it sounds just bad!

I am trying to use Toneboosters Barricade on my Aux Bus master output. I am inserting it on the channel insert and chose a few presets like -3 db board console and it’s sounds distorted and muddy. Can anyone tell me what I must be doing wrong ? I’m trying to make my master sound better but it sounds worse. I am not distorting the individual tracks too. Thanks in advance.

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  • Make sure the input is not too hot. Also, try a few different presets, Loud Master for example

  • @branis said:
    Make sure the input is not too hot.

    This is probably the reason. The more you clip a signal the more you introduce distortion.

  • Yeah the gain input was too hot. Thx

  • And, ignore the presets, learn the settings. A reasonable indication is how much attenuation is showing. With any loudness focused limiter, a typical amount of attenuation that's not overly aggressive would be just 2 or 3 decibels, fluctuating, not constant, as constant would be weird, like why is it already brickwall but low. More aggressive fluctuating attenuation of 5,6,7 decibels of attenuation when using these modern era impressively transparent tools, is likely to still be workable, and that really all depends on the style of music and the aesthetic sensibility (IE a lot of people in some genres actually quite like overcrushed sound indicative of the last 20 years of Waves L2 abuse),,,

    if the mix you are feeding in to barricade, you've mixed with some headroom left, so the mix isn't peaking above about -6dB, or even lower in fact, then Barricade has room to now make up. At risk of stating the obvious you aren't using Barricade to do something magical and inexplicable, you're (mostly) just trying to match your master up with commercial level loudness, so have a reference to compare to, as well as an understanding of the levels expected on the particular platforms you might deliver to (an example of this being the -14 dB LUFS of spotify https://support.spotify.com/uk/artists/article/loudness-normalization/

    Dan Worrall may not have made a Toneboosters video, but the workflow followed in his FabFilter Pro L2 video applies just as much to Barricade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMJeWXtJODc

    Read the manual https://www.toneboosters.com/manuals/TB_Barricade.pdf

  • I like the combo presets the best, subtle glue, stronger glue, etc… . I also send things to a mix bus then a master bus. Also As mentioned keep things low, leave head room.

  • @Antos3345 said:
    I am trying to use Toneboosters Barricade on my Aux Bus master output. I am inserting it on the channel insert and chose a few presets like -3 db board console and it’s sounds distorted and muddy. Can anyone tell me what I must be doing wrong ? I’m trying to make my master sound better but it sounds worse. I am not distorting the individual tracks too. Thanks in advance.

    Without a demonstration, advice here is guesswork. Do a screenrecording demonstrating the issues with the plugin active and the plugin bypassed. Then post a link.

  • I think they got their answer, levels were too high…

    @Antos3345 said:
    Yeah the gain input was too hot. Thx

    So I guess chalk this one up as solved.

    @Antos3345 maybe add (Solved) at the end of the thread title so people know you found your answer. Cheers!

  • Solved .. thanks !

  • @Antos3345 said:
    Solved .. thanks !

    Please edit the thread title to indicate that it is solved.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @Antos3345 said:
    Solved .. thanks !

    Please edit the thread title to indicate that it is solved.

    And you might want to remove the “it sounds just bad” from the title

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