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Overloud THU or BIAS FX 2- Which one has better fx’s
Who owns both Overloud Thu and Bias Fx 2, and which one is better in quality. Even if you have one and not the other, how is your experience having them. I want to know what’s the better Effects of the two. And what’s also the pros and cons from one another. In the end I’m looking for quality. I forgot to add but how are their amps compared to Nembrini. I noticed Overloud has a big number of amps alone at mostly 5$ each and Nembrini only have single amped apps that are usually 10$-20$
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By fx, do you include amp simulation?
Does it matter that BIAS FX is strictly a standalone app that can only connect to apps that support IAA (which Apple has deprecated and will discontinue at some point).
Not an answer but a suggestion for yet another app to add to the comparison mix --> Rhino, excellent all in one (even IR loading) app. I like both Nembrini and Overloud but have never used Bias as it's too old and not maintained.
I own both, I think both are great but I don’t own a whole lot of iap’s for Thu and I bought the Elite bundle for Bias fx 2 a while ago and it’s actually on sale right now and would be a great time to pull the trigger. I wish it was an auv3 but aside from that I use it a lot more that Thu and I also use Bias Amps 2 a lot just with a hardware pedalboard. The guitar match feature is nice and the fact that you can load ir’s in Bias amps gives it the edge imo, I came up with an insane tone just yesterday using my Strat to sound like a Les Paul and using a Celestion speaker ir. When you but the Elite bundle you get everything in the professional and standard bundle too. I’m not knocking Thu, I just like Positive Grids stuff more
I wouldn’t say they aren’t maintained as far as Bias Amps and Bias fx go, they both have been updated within the last two months but the rest of their apps …definitely. My only complaint is no auv3 but I use them in stand alone mode mainly, with an SSL 2+ connected to my IPad going into an Apogee Symphony Desktop connected to my Mac running either Logic Pro or ProTools.
I was talking about the simple distortions, bitcrusher, compressors, chorus, reverbs, things like that. But you can add amp simulations too, they’re good effects and are distortions. As for only being IAA then that’s a big con. But the quality of the amps and fxs, minus the standalone between the apps
So it seems the Bias app is working right. Being that it’s not auv3 is kinda a waste of a good app. I really like using IAAs, but being that Bias FX seems it’s an old app and have all those amazing amps and fx’s that it’s a waste for them not to make auv3. Have they updated it in recent times
You're right, sorry. Right now I'm completely sold on Nembrini Hardball, it sounds so amazing - it's like all I need
I even bought it to desktop but missed it was fucking iLok license which I refuse to use, so that was a bummer.
Ok, I may have to check that one out, I have a lot of their other amp sims and effect apps but haven’t grabbed that one yet, this is what I have so far lol
Overloud THU
ToneDeluxeV2 is really good.
Bonus, the $0 tag is also great.
Agreed!!
Over loud THU sounds the best to me… but I crave a classic Fender and do NOT follow tones more intense than Robben Ford or SRV. So, a pair of TubeScreams for the SRV and a Fender Bassman (the heart of a Dumble modded for Robben Ford) work for the extremes. But you would usually find me using one of the Randall Amps in TH-U loaded into AUM to add more FX. But the FX selection and quality in TH-U is top notch. The TH-U iRig “modeled” set-ups from ChopTones, BHS, LRS are also wonderful.
Rhino is an absolute godsend. I very rarely buy amps or effects anymore cos I never have a problem getting the tone I want with Rhino.
Never bothered to get Bias fx2. I'm sure it sounds ok just like Bias Amp does, but I eventually gave up on Positive Grid especially because they didn't implement AUV3, which is like shooting your own feet in the iOS world.
For amps, I think THU does a great job and their amps can sound as good as Nembrini. Lately I am impressed by Tonex amps in terms of tone and playability. But it might just be the usual appeal for new tools 😉
The effects inside THU are great, you cannot go wrong (I prefer these over Tonestack effects). But, imo, the best part of THU is the impressive choice of rigs. Those sound, play and feel great but can be costly...
Overall, the thing I realized lately is that tone is highly subjective and we reached a point where amp sims or captures sounds very good and behave more and more like the real deal, regardless of the developer... One would have a hard time comparing let's say different AC30 (my favourite amp) Sims in a blind test. It is even possible to get very good results with the stocks amps in Logic Pro...
Good to have plenty of choice to find the right amp for a specific track. But better not to overthink things. Most of the current offer can fool most listeners especially in a fully mixed track context.
Does Rhino have all kinds of packages like bias and overload or is it a one amp app like the Nembrini ones? Nembrini are only one amp apps but they have a whole collection of amp apps
No it's just one app and no IAP. There's sections where you can alter settings, effects and add IR's whatnot.
Gotta echo @Pxlhg here, Rhino and Mammoth are both fantastic and among the best you can get on the iPad. Also the apps from Julien Faure (aka Lost in the 70s) are great and very bc cheap. He has 4 different amps (though 1 is for bass) and they’re all fantastic.
Any reason you’re not interested in Tonestack or ToneX? Tone X is very good.
Also I believe all of these are free to try, and even the AUV3 is unlocked in the free version. Wouldn’t hurt to download them all just to see.
Overloud THU is the best-sounding amp and fx sim by far IMO, but I really hate the UI. The rigs in particular sound very very good, but again using them is a mediocre experience, the UI is just not pleasant to use.
Nembrini amp sims come second for me, and their UI is good, much more enjoyable to use than Overloud.
I'm not a fan of Tonex (I'm in the minority here but I really dislike the sound of the app), and BIAS is unusable being IAA, how do you record it into Logic? Releasing an IAA-only app at this point in time is suicidal in terms of sales.
@majorwizard047 Overloud effects are so good that companies like Antelope Audio and Gospel Musicians license them. If you don’t even play guitar but want an fx package, Overloud would be a great choice, the all FX bundle and the all Distortions bundle. Other guitar fx contenders would be ToneStack and MixBox, and the single effects from Nembrini. Rhino has good onboard effects. I wouldn’t even bother with Bias. If you step outside of the “guitar” apps, there are many many great fx apps out there, FAC, Eventide, Moog, etc…
That’s what got me more interested in Overloud was that Gospel Musicians fx’s come from them. And IFX Rack are good fx’s, that with Overloud you’ll get even more of the same thing. When I had looked at Bias Fx 2 store I saw that the biggest and most expensive elite package is 40$, while Overlouds biggest package is 120$. That’s a 80$ difference, but Bias has its cons.
in Overloud you can buy just the all FX Pack or the all Distortion pack, they’re $22.99. For $120 (or $80 on sale) you get all the guitar amps and cabs. But if you just want effects those bundles are a great deal at $23 each.
Every app has its pros and cons. The biggest con with Overloud is the UI (which I happen to like) and confusing terminology. But if you get 1-2 real amp Rigs (not the sims) and the fx bundles, it’s about as good as it gets quality wise.
Nembrini amps and fx are mostly great, but you have to arrange them all in an AU host like AUM or in a Daw. I don’t think Nembrini’s own host app is up to the task yet. But a few Nembrini amps and their fx (free and paid) are also about as good as it gets.
Rhino is also great and has onboard fx available both pre and post gain. But the selection is limited, in the sense that you just get some onboard compression, reverb, limiting, etc… it’s more than enough but my point is it’s not a large suite of fx emulations or stomp boxes, more like good generic onboard fx.
Tonex has great amp captures no doubt, but for fx it’s only gain based stuff like od/distortion. There are onboard effects like a great plate reverb, but my point is you can’t capture modulation pedals yet. Pedal captures are only gain based, I would look at MixBox for actual fx.
Not a fan of Bias, doesn’t sound good to me. The guitar match feature is poor, and overall the guitar just sounds fizzy and distant with this app. With apps like Nembrini, Tonex, Overloud, Rhino, the input signal feels more immediate or closer somehow. With Bias it sounds like oversquashed kill-dry. No offense, I’m sure a good tone can be found by others. I do think Bias Amp sounds better than Bias FX.
Tonestack has great FX, I’m not a huge fan of the guitar amps though…
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ChowTape is also one of the best tape emulations on iOS. But yeah Multitool is a must have for all it offers and BYOD is one of those “can’t believe this is free” apps because it can do so much. Highly recommend his entire collection to anyone.
I bought BIAS FX really cheap on sale a couple of years ago, but regret it now for exactly that reason. I gambled that AUv3 would be implemented at some point in the near future, but there hasn’t been anything from them to indicate that they even have that functionality on a roadmap.
If I had to choose over I would definitely invest in something that supports AUv3.
It’s still useful as of this moment right. It’s IAA but as long as you can get it on your mix, is what counts. So make sure your money was well spent till the end.
Only useful if using with a host that supports IAA (Logic, for example doesn’t) and there is a hassle to lack of state-saving — especially when there are options whose sound quality is the same or better.
This. It’s easier to excuse with more unique apps like Borderlands and Thumbjam vs this app which has multiple other AU compatible competitors.
Imo, it isn’t a matter of excusing or not. I was not placing blame… just trying to give perspective on why one might regret having chosen BIAS Fx over other options…given that OP is trying to weigh the options.