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Progressive Rock anybody?

I love a lot of prog rock, but I’ve always struggled to make music myself that uses odd time signatures - I’m strictly a 4/4 kinda guy, or if I’m feeling brave, the odd 6/8.

Anyway, not all prog uses these techniques and within what I am capable of, I like composing songs that change and morph into different sections. The challenge is then to try to make them hang together coherently rather than sounding like different songs strung together randomly.

Is anyone else here making prog rock?

This is a song I posted here once before a few months back, from my concept album Predetermined https://billsaunders.hearnow.com/

Comments

  • I’m not a big prog fan at all, I like 3 King Crimson albums and a few other tracks by them. I do however admire the musicality and skill in a lot of it and you seem to have that too. The track posted, though not really my thing, is very well done and sounds great. Is it all just you?

    I’ve never struggled with time changes, me and a mate had a “prog punk” band a few years back , the songwriting was pretty much me churning out a string of drums in odd signatures, him adding guitar and vocals and along the way one of us would add bass and keys.

    Somehow, they sounded coherent and not just strung together, I’m not sure how!

    I love the flow of your track, I’ll check out the rest of your album when I get home.

    Nice one!

  • Liked the track. I’m partial to a bit of prog, not all of it mind. Some favourites are King Crimson, Yes, Aphrodites Child, Faust, Can, Hawkwind and Gong.

  • I love Prog Rock and I really enjoyed your track too - although I thought it was going to be a Prog Metal track at first!
    Are those sampled guitars? They sound very good, if so.

    I have made many Prog Rock albums, on my iPad but using mainly real guitars - you can find my solo albums here:
    https://amultitudeofone.bandcamp.com and there are several Proggy albums I have done with Doug Woods here:
    https://dougwoodsandcolinpowell.bandcamp.com

    I also recently made an album with Ambient Prog band Nova Cascade, called The Navigator, which is due for release on CD as well as digital download on 29th September - you can hear a sample here
    https://novacascade.bandcamp.com (and there are more tracks on Youtube).

  • I like this very much. The intro is high energy and the guitar solo fits perfectly. Then it suddenly drops and the vocals come in with an acoustic guitar and light violin. I would have put a big cymbal crash at 0:41. Just me. Then the drums pick up at 1:06. Nice snare. Then back to the high energy at 1:26 followed by the mellow acoustic guitar at 1:55, but different from the other one. The harmony vocals at 2:14 really fit well, then back to the mellow acoustic with that surprising little chord change. I could study this for hours. This definitely sounds like one idea with many parts that fit perfectly. Nothing random about it. World class progressive rock!

  • Nice track. Most of it gave me somewhat of a Jethro Tull (circa Passion Play) vibe. The intro before the vocals had me thinking of Joe Satriani. Two thumbs up. 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @wim it is no exaggeration to say that this track would not have come about if it were not for you - in 2021 you help me work out how to play and record MIDI data on desktop VSTs using the KB-1 keyboard on my iPad. It was a long thread, I nearly gave up a couple of times, but you actually kept coming back and eventually I got the thing working, using two audio interfaces. I knew it would be a “big win” for me, because I could play the KB-1 to play interesting scales. The lead guitar intro on this track was the Spanish scale, or Phrygian Dominant, played on the KB-1, and the VST was Indigenous Generation electric guitar instrument through Kontakt. Not in a million years would I have come up with that on my own ‘go-to’ minor pentatonic scale! Here’s the original post:

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/43727/ios-instruments-to-windows-daw/p1

    @MistaG thank you for listening. If you do check out my album, I thank you again. Everything you hear on all my songs is done by me, it’s a personal failing of mine that I don’t collaborate much at all these days!

    @scrape prog is broad church and of all bands you mention there are three I’ve never heard of!

    @AlterEgo_UK I will check out some of your huge back catalogue - prolific! Thanks for listening and as mentioned above I used mainly samples for this track. Indigenous was also used for 7 string drop C tuned heavy riff at the beginning, and the acoustic picking was Native Instruments picked acoustic if I remember correctly. Violin would have been GeoShred.

    @Paulieworld Thank you for listening to closely and your very kind comments. Can I quote you on “world class progressive rock” to promote my next album, and would it be OK if you pretended to be Rick Wakeman or John Petrucci or someone to give the quote a bit more weight?! 😂

  • Very cool.
    So all the guitars are samples not actually played.
    I don’t care either way I enjoyed it

  • I dig it. I really enjoyed the first 45 seconds.

  • Prog repels chicks 😞👎

  • Mostly Rush and Yes. Music created just to be overcomplicated and unlistenable does not interest me.

  • I think I enjoyed and commented on this one in February but on listening again I think I enjoyed it even more. Particularly liked the acoustic guitar at about 3:30ish.

  • Tangential: I have Dave Weigel’s book on Prog Rock (audiobook, tbh) and it’s a corker. I’d probably read it even if I had no interest in Prog rock, and to be honest, my interest is indeed mild to moderate. Ian Anderson, is the most gentlemanly guv’nor to ever press a farthing into a wretch’s palm

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