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Woodsynth

I just wanted to know if anyone has woodsynth or Woodstepper and successfully used one as a sequencer for hardware specifically ? I know woodsynth also has a sequencer but does that do midi out to hardware?

Edit - answer is both , woodsynth does added CV for modulation synths

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  • edited September 2023

    I don’t really use hardware anymore so unfortunately I can’t really answer directly, I’m just chiming in to say as apps themselves, both are great. Woodsynth sounds amazing and has a ton of cool features but suffers from an unintuitive UI. Woodstepper has a much better UI but less fully featured synth (still has all the basics and then some).

    Woodstepper is my favorite of the bunch. The sequencer is great and having separate timings on each lane leads to crazy happenings. Plus it functions as a sampler, synth, drum machine, and sequencer.

    Also according the the App Store description, Woodstepper is the only app that sends midi out.

  • edited September 2023

    @HotStrange said:
    I don’t really use hardware anymore so unfortunately I can’t really answer directly, I’m just chiming in to say as apps themselves, both are great. Woodsynth sounds amazing and has a ton of cool features but suffers from an unintuitive UI. Woodstepper has a much better UI but less fully featured synth (still has all the basics and then some).

    Woodstepper is my favorite of the bunch. The sequencer is great and having separate timings on each lane leads to crazy happenings. Plus it functions as a sampler, synth, drum machine, and sequencer.

    Also according the the App Store description, Woodstepper is the only app that sends midi out.

    That’s impressive, I watched the videos and it looks so cool for the sequencer . I also saw Woodstepper more for its midi abilities. I’m looking for more midi and sequencing than synth sounds themselves. Thanks for the reply

  • @dreamcartel said:

    @HotStrange said:
    I don’t really use hardware anymore so unfortunately I can’t really answer directly, I’m just chiming in to say as apps themselves, both are great. Woodsynth sounds amazing and has a ton of cool features but suffers from an unintuitive UI. Woodstepper has a much better UI but less fully featured synth (still has all the basics and then some).

    Woodstepper is my favorite of the bunch. The sequencer is great and having separate timings on each lane leads to crazy happenings. Plus it functions as a sampler, synth, drum machine, and sequencer.

    Also according the the App Store description, Woodstepper is the only app that sends midi out.

    That’s impressive, I watched the videos and it looks so cool for the sequencer . I also saw Woodstepper more for its midi abilities. I’m looking for more midi and sequencing than synth sounds themselves. Thanks for the reply

    Sure! I definitely would recommend it. It’s one of my favorite apps for sure.

  • Stepper can be a hardwire seq, cos it have midi outputs.
    Woodsynth can works with control voltage, with CV hardware (modular synths, for example). You can use the Woodsynth’s MPE keyboard to control external synths, and may be it haves midi outs on seqs… I try it today.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @dreamcartel said:

    @HotStrange said:
    I don’t really use hardware anymore so unfortunately I can’t really answer directly, I’m just chiming in to say as apps themselves, both are great. Woodsynth sounds amazing and has a ton of cool features but suffers from an unintuitive UI. Woodstepper has a much better UI but less fully featured synth (still has all the basics and then some).

    Woodstepper is my favorite of the bunch. The sequencer is great and having separate timings on each lane leads to crazy happenings. Plus it functions as a sampler, synth, drum machine, and sequencer.

    Also according the the App Store description, Woodstepper is the only app that sends midi out.

    That’s impressive, I watched the videos and it looks so cool for the sequencer . I also saw Woodstepper more for its midi abilities. I’m looking for more midi and sequencing than synth sounds themselves. Thanks for the reply

    Sure! I definitely would recommend it. It’s one of my favorite apps for sure.

    I thought nobody really knew how to use it though. I remember people discussing that a few years ago. Did that change, like a detailed tutorial came out, or did you just struggle through the manual?

  • edited September 2023

    Edit - sorry , didn’t mean to bump, I accidentally made a reply instead of thinking I was editing!! (Delete if you want)

  • edited September 2023

    @temaniak said:
    Stepper can be a hardwire seq, cos it have midi outputs.
    Woodsynth can works with control voltage, with CV hardware (modular synths, for example). You can use the Woodsynth’s MPE keyboard to control external synths, and may be it haves midi outs on seqs… I try it today.

    The manual says it does as did the dev; I mean he said they both have sequencers that do MIDI out but the difference was the CV woodsynth has.

    Whatever the case, Gav saying it was complicated and knowing I am not a seasoned producer means go with the safe bet, can’t lose with Woodsynth either way, and I’m sure it can sequence as good if it does CV (and Woodstepper has yet too) but please let us know your results

  • @dreamcartel said:

    @temaniak said:
    Stepper can be a hardwire seq, cos it have midi outputs.
    Woodsynth can works with control voltage, with CV hardware (modular synths, for example). You can use the Woodsynth’s MPE keyboard to control external synths, and may be it haves midi outs on seqs… I try it today.

    The manual says it does as did the dev; I mean he said they both have sequencers that do MIDI out but the difference was the CV woodsynth has.

    Whatever the case, Gav saying it was complicated and knowing I am not a seasoned producer means go with the safe bet, can’t lose with Woodsynth either way, and I’m sure it can sequence as good if it does CV (and Woodstepper has yet too) but please let us know your results

    I did it. In advanced window you can change the midi channel for sequencer. But , if i understand it right , it can use only one seq (not from all four layers).

  • @temaniak said:

    @dreamcartel said:

    @temaniak said:
    Stepper can be a hardwire seq, cos it have midi outputs.
    Woodsynth can works with control voltage, with CV hardware (modular synths, for example). You can use the Woodsynth’s MPE keyboard to control external synths, and may be it haves midi outs on seqs… I try it today.

    The manual says it does as did the dev; I mean he said they both have sequencers that do MIDI out but the difference was the CV woodsynth has.

    Whatever the case, Gav saying it was complicated and knowing I am not a seasoned producer means go with the safe bet, can’t lose with Woodsynth either way, and I’m sure it can sequence as good if it does CV (and Woodstepper has yet too) but please let us know your results

    I did it. In advanced window you can change the midi channel for sequencer. But , if i understand it right , it can use only one seq (not from all four layers).

    Thanks for trying it. And yes, it would only be one note per step I think the manual said ; other things like velocity or pitch bend can also be sent too though

    Pretty impressive Woodman apps

  • @dreamcartel : WoodStepper has more advanced midi out : per step 4 different midi commands (note-on, CC, ...) can be sent and this per layer where the midi out channel can be different per layer.
    WoodSynth only uses 1 midi channel (for all the layers) and outputs only the note played by the step. But its CV out has a lot more output possibilities. Also the randomness, different timing per step and ratcheting are more advanced than in WoodStepper.
    best rgds,
    Woodman

  • @woodman said:
    @dreamcartel : WoodStepper has more advanced midi out : per step 4 different midi commands (note-on, CC, ...) can be sent and this per layer where the midi out channel can be different per layer.
    WoodSynth only uses 1 midi channel (for all the layers) and outputs only the note played by the step. But its CV out has a lot more output possibilities. Also the randomness, different timing per step and ratcheting are more advanced than in WoodStepper.
    best rgds,
    Woodman

    Would you consider updating Woodstepper with the random, timing and ratcheting?

  • edited September 2023

    @woodman said:
    @dreamcartel : WoodStepper has more advanced midi out : per step 4 different midi commands (note-on, CC, ...) can be sent and this per layer where the midi out channel can be different per layer.
    WoodSynth only uses 1 midi channel (for all the layers) and outputs only the note played by the step. But its CV out has a lot more output possibilities. Also the randomness, different timing per step and ratcheting are more advanced than in WoodStepper.
    best rgds,
    Woodman

    Well then I am satisfied with woodsynth !
    It is fantastic. @woodman Thank you!

  • @gusgranite : yes it is on my (long) list of things to do but the only thing I can't give you is the timing :-)
    best,
    Woodman

  • I had no idea what ratcheting meant until I got Woodsynth. when I became somewhat familiar with the sequencer, I wanted to know what ratcheting and timing was referring to, as if I intuitively guessed it had something to do with staying in time but not being in time exactly, and it is incredible. Thanks for bringing that up otherwise I would have stuck in 1/16 note monotonous sequences.

    I’m not sure what other synths or sequencers do this but With the 4 variation playlist you kind of have all you need for a song of the EDM variety. I recommend Woodsynth highly.

  • Initially I was told the limitations on the Woodsynth were a few but to be honest with my experimentation, it’s the only midi hardware sequencer that worked so far.

    Drambo failed
    Beatmaker 3 failed

    I don’t have Xequence, Atom, helium or Rozeta or mosaic or theses or anything like that to try

    But woodsynth works perfectly; it plays the notes and it has ratcheting…I could’ve used velocity but that’s fine

    Anyone else find woodsynth or Woodstepper to work a little better than some other sequencers that keep jamming my synth and force me to restart? What other sequencers work well (LK? Any above do things like woodsynth?)

    Glad it works; woodsynth is really unique

  • @dreamcartel said:
    Initially I was told the limitations on the Woodsynth were a few but to be honest with my experimentation, it’s the only midi hardware sequencer that worked so far.

    Drambo failed
    Beatmaker 3 failed

    I don’t have Xequence, Atom, helium or Rozeta or mosaic or theses or anything like that to try

    But woodsynth works perfectly; it plays the notes and it has ratcheting…I could’ve used velocity but that’s fine

    Anyone else find woodsynth or Woodstepper to work a little better than some other sequencers that keep jamming my synth and force me to restart? What other sequencers work well (LK? Any above do things like woodsynth?)

    Glad it works; woodsynth is really unique

    I typically use standalone sequencers but I’m only sequencing iOS synths, no hardware. Woodstepper has an amazing sequencer though for sure. Haven’t tried Woodsynth to sequence externally yet though.

  • I would love to find a video tutorial for the sequencer in Woodsynth, I couldn’t get it to run, it’s just not intuitive for me personally….if I feel around in the dark longer maybe I’ll figure it out but it should be more intuitive imo

  • @Strizbiz said:
    I would love to find a video tutorial for the sequencer in Woodsynth, I couldn’t get it to run, it’s just not intuitive for me personally….if I feel around in the dark longer maybe I’ll figure it out but it should be more intuitive imo

    Ahhhh just figured it out…and it’s not in the sequencer window lol….had to zoom in to see because the font is so tiny I couldn’t read it lol

  • The manual is really extensive. It isn’t the easiest at first glance, but once you learn it it becomes like anything else . The presets are really helpful because they save the sequencer and midi data so you don’t always have to start from square 1. It is not as clunky as it seems. In fact, despite the small menus, because I know what they do and how they work now I actually can use it on my iPhone 12 mini, which is like an iPad mini practically internally. You can also zoom in with the app. There are a lot of really thought out features in terms of zooming and seeing different windows, but yes, the text is a little hard to read.

    I only caught one bug where the first MIDI note on Daw transport isn’t output but woodman is looking into that.

    Also hotstrange, did you notice The randomizer for the variations can get temperamental if you try to make adjustment during playback?

    (meaning once it is all written , don’t mess with it otherwise the randomizer stops and it goes back to “select” variation by default so if you’re looking for randomized patterns or sequential patterns it doesn’t seem to work after the intial work) idk maybe I’m doing something odd with playback so I’m curious to know your experience?

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