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sequencer with per note swing?

Hello,
Anyone know a sequencer with per note / per lane swing settings rather than "just" the overall swing setting?
Polyswingic!

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  • wimwim
    edited September 2023

    Groove Rider GR-16 has it - and 33 different grooves to boot.
    Xequence has per-track swing.

  • Atom 2 - can add swing to the midi, so using multiple instances could provide independent swing.
    Xequence 2 - mentioned above
    Mozaic - I believe there are a couple swing type scripts, you could then route the midi you want to a few different instances of Mozaic with different swing settings.

  • edited September 2023

    @wim said:
    Groove Rider GR-16 has it - and 33 different grooves to boot.
    Xequence has per-track swing.

    @Poppadocrock said:
    Atom 2 - can add swing to the midi, so using multiple instances could provide independent swing.
    Xequence 2 - mentioned above
    Mozaic - I believe there are a couple swing type scripts, you could then route the midi you want to a few different instances of Mozaic with different swing settings.

    Thanks both!
    All of these are good shouts.

    By the looks of it, mker as well, named as offset, and is per lane.

  • @Bruques said:
    Hello,
    Anyone know a sequencer with per note / per lane swing settings rather than "just" the overall swing setting?
    Polyswingic!

    Wouldn’t playing the sequence on a keyboard without any quantization turned on work for this?

  • edited September 2023

    If you want per-note control in the sense of controlling the spacing of notes within a single bar, you could probably set it up in MiRack using a gate delay.

    You send a clock of one note per measure into three gate delays (assuming a 4/4/ time signature). Adjust one gate delay to give you the second beat in the bar, another delay creates the third beat, etc. Then you mix the original clock and the gate delay outputs together to make your swing clock.

  • @michael_m said:

    @Bruques said:
    Hello,
    Anyone know a sequencer with per note / per lane swing settings rather than "just" the overall swing setting?
    Polyswingic!

    Wouldn’t playing the sequence on a keyboard without any quantization turned on work for this?

    wow you really bothered to write that huh,

    then again i really bothered to reply.

  • @Bruques said:

    @michael_m said:

    @Bruques said:
    Hello,
    Anyone know a sequencer with per note / per lane swing settings rather than "just" the overall swing setting?
    Polyswingic!

    Wouldn’t playing the sequence on a keyboard without any quantization turned on work for this?

    wow you really bothered to write that huh,

    then again i really bothered to reply.

    You have a problem with me making a suggestion to help? Why would you not try this? It seems like the easiest way to play with swing per note.

  • wimwim
    edited September 2023

    I think maybe you misunderstood the question @michael_m. It isn't about "per note" as in swinging just the 1st, 3rd, and 7th note in a pattern. It's about changing the swing of one part of a sequenced pattern, such as a high hat, while leaving the swing of the kick alone. In a sequenced pattern that can be very effective, and you can also vary it after the fact. I don't think you're really suggesting that it's easier to re-record something like a hi-hat pattern every time you want to change the groove?

    Or maybe you are, and you just have better chops than most. At any rate, it could sound to someone like you're saying "How about just learning to play instead."

    fwiw, I prefer the feel of live played swing sounds far better than sequencing, but not everyone (myself included) has the chops to pull it off in many cases. Sequencing lets us save time and lets us try adjustments without having to re-record every time.

  • L> @michael_m said:

    @Bruques said:

    @michael_m said:

    @Bruques said:
    Hello,
    Anyone know a sequencer with per note / per lane swing settings rather than "just" the overall swing setting?
    Polyswingic!

    Wouldn’t playing the sequence on a keyboard without any quantization turned on work for this?

    wow you really bothered to write that huh,

    then again i really bothered to reply.

    You have a problem with me making a suggestion to help? Why would you not try this? It seems like the easiest way to play with swing per note.

    Well they asked for a sequencer which means they probably either can’t or don’t want to play it. Or it fits better with their workflow to sequence it. Also sequencing opens up far more possibilities so it makes way more sense not to play it.

  • @Bruques said:

    @michael_m said:

    @Bruques said:
    Hello,
    Anyone know a sequencer with per note / per lane swing settings rather than "just" the overall swing setting?
    Polyswingic!

    Wouldn’t playing the sequence on a keyboard without any quantization turned on work for this?

    wow you really bothered to write that huh,

    then again i really bothered to reply.

    Seems like there's a miscommunication here. I think @michael_m was trying to be helpful but missed the mark. Afterall we're talking about sequencing, not live playing in the notes.

    Anyways, I'll add my vote for GR-16. Definitely has a lot of fun parameters to play with in its sequencer, including "chance" (where you can set the percentage of the likelihood of a note playing or not). I definitely need to redownload it to have a play with it again.

    Then again if I'm making something like Lofi/Hip-Hop, I move notes around by hand to give the beat a loose feel rather than a set swing. That's me though, your mileage may vary.

  • It would be cool if drambo allowed negative step offset, you can delay a note but you can’t make it earlier than it’s step. Probably too much of a redesign or Giku would have implemented it already. Work around is using the previous step with a long delay, but that is cumbersome and there’s no way to quickly superimpose a custom groove on a sequence, you’d have to painstakingly edit each and every note
    What you can do in drambo is modulate the time signal, so it speeds up or slows down in sync, thus confering a custom groove according to your time function.
    Search for micro timing on beepstreet’s forum

  • @wim said:
    I think maybe you misunderstood the question @michael_m. It isn't about "per note" as in swinging just the 1st, 3rd, and 7th note in a pattern. It's about changing the swing of one part of a sequenced pattern, such as a high hat, while leaving the swing of the kick alone. In a sequenced pattern that can be very effective, and you can also vary it after the fact. I don't think you're really suggesting that it's easier to re-record something like a hi-hat pattern every time you want to change the groove?

    Or maybe you are, and you just have better chops than most. At any rate, it could sound to someone like you're saying "How about just learning to play instead."

    fwiw, I prefer the feel of live played swing sounds far better than sequencing, but not everyone (myself included) has the chops to pull it off in many cases. Sequencing lets us save time and lets us try adjustments without having to re-record every time.

    Yes, I probably did miss the intent, but to me a sequencer includes a piano roll or indirectly a MIDI file loaded to one. It just seemed that to alter swing to that extent would be far less work if played live (and maybe subjected to some manual editing) rather than figure out how to program it.

    It’s a one sentence question, and gave an answer based on what I thought was meant.

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