«Lorelei’s Lullaby» - dark edgy bluesy collab with Cthonicist (Svetlovska)

Luxthor

@richardyot said:

@Luxthor said:

@richardyot said:
The overall vibe reminds me a little of the Jesus And Mary Chain's cover of the Bo Diddley classic "Who Do You Love"

When I was younger, I binge-listened to their "Psychocandy" and played Mercenary all night till I cracked the game and made a map. 🫣 It was before "Darklands" was published. I never heard of this Bo Diddley cover. It’s always good to hear something new from them.

It was on the B-side to April Skies, one of their best tracks. Also found on the really excellent compilation album “Barbed Wire Kisses”

PS I’m also a huge off of Tom Waits and Nick Cave. Everything Tom Waits did after Heart Attack and Vine was amazing.

My favorite song from Tom is "Innocent When You Dream", not just Tom’s best but, imho, the most touching and beautiful poem ever sung. And now just imagine when I heard that song in the movie "Smoke" in the best Christmas tale I ever heard, and the movie alone is not that far away either.

Regarding the J&MC, "Darklands" was too clean, almost unrecognizable for me. All that charm and uniqueness faded away on some producer’s mixing board. There, I said it!

Svetlovska

@Luxthor : Oh, that song has me in tears every time I hear it. Such a beautiful thing:

JanKun

@McD said:
Yes… @Svetlovska certainly conjures up a “siren”. The Nick Cage reference comes shining through too. I really only heard his work when I started binging “Peaky Blinders” with its use of “Red Right Hand”.

Another genre conquered by @jankun.

The Red Right Hand is a nice song but far from being the most powerful and visceral song Nick Cave wrote. I mentioned a few in another comment in this thread. My personal favourite being The Mercy Seat.
Btw, Peaky Blinders soundtrack is always spot on. They regularly use songs from IDLES which is one of the most impressive rock / post punk act of the last 10 years. I remembering hearing Laura Marling, Anna Calvi, PJ Harvey, Foals, Queens of The Stone Age. And the song from The Smile called "Pana-vision" is absolutely gorgeous and becomes the center of a whole scene in the latest episode.

Luxthor

@Svetlovska said:
@Luxthor : Oh, that song has me in tears every time I hear it. Such a beautiful thing:

🫶🥹

JanKun

@Svetlovska said:
@Luxthor : Oh, that song has me in tears every time I hear it. Such a beautiful thing:

This ❤️ ! and Tom Traubert's Blues! There is also this song called "Hold on" (I think on Mule Variation) that has helped me a lot through hard times. And his song "Alice" kills me everytime I hear it!

Krupa

Mmm this one’s really good, nice you gave yourself permission to get so into it. I think I’ve done the same thing with guitar solos since the nineties and rarely let myself do the fun stuff… sounds great and feels great, nice one 🤘

Luxthor

@JanKun said:

@Luxthor said:
I can’t believe what you did with that viola. Brilliant! And Svetlovska’s noise, if I didn’t know already, I wouldn’t even notice it’s there. It sounds like freaked-out overdrive, but in a good way! It’s really in the spirit of Tom and Cave fusion. I'm a huge fan of both; I have all the albums from Tom and many from Cave. Bravo! 🤩

Thanks a lot for listening ! Glad you liked the viola. Its sounds reminds me a lot of Warren Ellis both with the Bad Seeds and his trio, Dirty Three, which I was lucky to see a few times live ! They released very beautiful music ! If you haven't heard of them, I am sure you will like them !

I was at the Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds concert in Ljubljana ’87. so I know the feelings very well. I never saw them with Warren, though, and I believe your every word. You lucky bastard!

What you did with viola is incredible.

michael_m

@JanKun said:

@Svetlovska said:
@Luxthor : Oh, that song has me in tears every time I hear it. Such a beautiful thing:

This ❤️ ! and Tom Traubert's Blues!

I think my favorite from that album is ‘Invitation to the Blues’. Really evokes some fantastic images of the everyday struggles of American loners.

JanKun

@Ailerom said:
This is very cool. It surprised me how well the drone just lays there under all the other tracks and just gives the whole song a fullness that would be hard to get otherwise. The track sounds huge because of it. Really good mix and a really good song. I could listen to an album of this sort of thing.

Thank you for listening ! I used the full mix provided by @Svetlovska, didn't use the audio stems. It was pretty heavy in the low end, so had to cut a bit with high pass filter. I agree that the drone and all its contained feedback bring fullness and helps blending the other elements.
From what I read before in the forum, you seem to have a high standard, so I am glad you enjoyed the track, it means this track is not too bad !
Your version was very good as well with a brighter side. with some vocals, it could become a great song !

AlterEgo_UK

Wow @JanKun ! I love the groove on this. The beat and bass really fits and your vocal and additional instrumentation bring this to life. Love the string and guitar solos too! Amazing how many different interpretations there have been but this may possibly be my favourite!

JanKun

@pbelgium said:

@JanKun said:
Thank you for noticing the solo too. Being a teenager learning the guitar from the beginning of the 90s, I "forbade" myself to indulge into guitar soloing. Obviously for the "no solo" aesthetic of that specific era but also because of one performance in particular: Jimi Hendrix instrumental version of Albert King's "Born Under a Bad Sign". From the very first time I heard it and to this day, it became to me the ultimate blues soloing guitar statement. I remembered thinking to myself, "there is no point trying to do this anymore when something so perfect has already been done". Since then, no other blues player managed to take me in the kind of emotional state Hendrix takes me everytime I hear his version... maybe like a sax player could feel when hearing Giant Step the first time. I recently reconnected to this part of my own guitar playing I burried deep down all those years. And while this little short solo of mine can only blemish compared to Hendrix performance it is quoting, this is exactly where it comes from.

It is a very good solo JF, very fitting.
Hendrix was a remarkable blues player. Apparently, Albert King disagreed - sounds a tad bitter.
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/albert-king-jimi-hendrix-the-blues/

Thanks Paul! Glad you liked it! Coming from an Hendrix lover like you, it means a lot.
I really love Albert King especially his way of tuning very low ! For my first 15 years as a player, I was fooled by SRV macho obsession of playing with high gauge. The guy was so obsessed that he ended up ruining his fingers and had to use glue to attach skin from his forearm at the tip of his left-hand fingers. I mean come on... Some people find it impressive or even romantic, I can only see profound stupidity or very toxic drug influence... Don't misunderstand my word, he was a great player and I learned a lot listening to him during my formative years but actually the high tension strings is exactly what I have always disliked in SRV tone... This and the tubescreamer tone...
Coming back to the point, Albert King was incredible expressive and the loose strings had a lot to do with that. This is something I have been experimenting a lot for the last 15 years. Tuning low whatever the open tuning. To my ears It provides incredible expressivity.
Now hearing Albert King bad mouthing Hendrix feels indeed bitter. I don't think Albert King could have composed or even play flawlessly a song like Castles made of Sand for exemple.

pbelgium

I’m a little envious of players who tune down - really adds to the tone/feel. I’ve always stuck with standard tuning for practical purposes. I like SRV’s tone, but also dislike tube screamers - a lot of his sound comes from his hands. Was fortunate enough to see him a couple of times.

Many of Hendrix’s blues’ are amazing and show his knowledge and obsession with the blues. Voodoo Child was the one for me (there’s 2 recordings, Electric Ladyland & Blues). These jams have been called lessons in blues history (Albert!). I made an attempt a few years back to demo the Nembrini MRH159.

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/45706/voodoo-child-blues-nembrini-mrh159

michael_m

@pbelgium said:
I’m a little envious of players who tune down - really adds to the tone/feel. I’ve always stuck with standard tuning for practical purposes. I like SRV’s tone, but also dislike tube screamers - a lot of his sound comes from his hands. Was fortunate enough to see him a couple of times.

Do you ever use any open tunings?

JanKun

@pbelgium said:
I’m a little envious of players who tune down - really adds to the tone/feel. I’ve always stuck with standard tuning for practical purposes. I like SRV’s tone, but also dislike tube screamers - a lot of his sound comes from his hands. Was fortunate enough to see him a couple of times.

Many of Hendrix’s blues’ are amazing and show his knowledge and obsession with the blues. Voodoo Child was the one for me (there’s 2 recordings, Electric Ladyland & Blues). These jams have been called lessons in blues history (Albert!). I made an attempt a few years back to demo the Nembrini MRH159.

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/45706/voodoo-child-blues-nembrini-mrh159

Having the ability to switch tuning on the go without intonation complications is one of the reasons why I banned the Stratocaster and cherish the Tele. Your set the strings and they don't move ! I still have an SRV strat back in France and would like to sell it to get an ES 335 but my nephew is using it so I am trying to be a nice uncle ! Honestly and in all subjectivity, the Telecaster is the queen of them all , now let's start a fight 😉 !

I remember listening to your take on Voodoo Chile. Great playing and tone !

JanKun

@michael_m said:

@pbelgium said:
I’m a little envious of players who tune down - really adds to the tone/feel. I’ve always stuck with standard tuning for practical purposes. I like SRV’s tone, but also dislike tube screamers - a lot of his sound comes from his hands. Was fortunate enough to see him a couple of times.

Do you ever use any open tunings?

The first step would be be to stay in standard but lower everything by a whole step in D. I even prefer in C or C#. IMO, Open tunings are the real interest of playing guitar

pbelgium

@michael_m I think some of my acoustic postings have different tunings - not necessarily open. @JanKun is correct: Strats just aren’t built for changing tuning. I played a gig last year which had a song mid-set with a drop D. Was out of tune for that song and the rest of the set. For the sake of a whammy bar some sacrifices have to be made (not to mention the 60Hz cycle hum I’ve learnt to ignore).

JanKun

@pbelgium said:
@michael_m I think some of my acoustic postings have different tunings - not necessarily open. @JanKun is correct: Strats just aren’t built for changing tuning. I played a gig last year which had a song mid-set with a drop D. Was out of tune for that song and the rest of the set. For the sake of a whammy bar some sacrifices have to be made (not to mention the 60Hz cycle hum I’ve learnt to ignore).

Yeah, Stratocasters are lame, thank you for confirming 😉 ! come one Paul, join the telecaster guild. Tune in C and you will see all the crazy things you can achieve. I guarantee you won't miss your damned whammy bar !

JanKun

@dreamcartel said:
Wow, this is amazing

(I had to open it in the SoundCloud)

I love the vocals man, like the guitar is great too but what you did with the vocals is really fitting for this man.

Hahahah you guys think I’m going to go after this ??? Meanwhile, I’m trying to figure out which file it is to download and then I heard this!!!

Where the towel rack guys?

No I’m gong to take this as a challenge (is it like the first wav file in the folder? I tried to play it but it wouldn’t allow me to)

Thanks for listening and for commenting ! Hoping you found your way through the files and can't wait to hear what you will be creating with it !

JanKun

@Krupa said:
Mmm this one’s really good, nice you gave yourself permission to get so into it. I think I’ve done the same thing with guitar solos since the nineties and rarely let myself do the fun stuff… sounds great and feels great, nice one 🤘

Thanks for chiming in ! It is definitely fun. Both you and me should indulge ourselves as long as we don't go for a 5+ minutes solo. Your version was great too. Your musical output on the forum is sparse lately. I hope you're doing well.

JanKun

@AlterEgo_UK said:
Wow @JanKun ! I love the groove on this. The beat and bass really fits and your vocal and additional instrumentation bring this to life. Love the string and guitar solos too! Amazing how many different interpretations there have been but this may possibly be my favourite!

Thank you Colin ! I agree. It is amazing how each version turned out. I really enjoyed yours, very unique blend of different styles! Glad you liked this one !

JanKun

@Svetlovska said:
I am in awe of the creativity displayed by people on this forum. @Krupa , @Ailerom, @pbelgium @AlterEgo_UK, @michael_m , and now @JanKun all brought their own distinct styles to this little fragment of a thing, and turned it into stuff I just don’t have the skills to manage. Others have expressed interest too, and may or may not choose to publish things later, or just mess with the noises I made in their own private projects. I am very happy to have provoked such a flowering, and humbled to find myself in the unlikely role of muse!

…And in @JanKun ’s case, that meant a whole freaking song! And what a dark, twisted little tale he tells. I love everything about it, from the singing-through-a-tin-megaphone edge to the vocals, to the wild viola that almost evokes Adrian Belew wigging out for Bowie in places, to the small but perfectly formed bent out of shape guitar solo. Damn, but I wish I could play like that. Or at all…

Thank you all for such great takes on this. I’m reposting all the takes on my SoundCloud in an attempt to spread the love. Thanks again.

I think I better go for a little lie down now…

So for now, I eventually answered all comments, and I honestly didn't expect this track to gather so much positive feedback. I wanted to keep this one specially for @Svetlovska : you're definitely a muse for so many of us here. It is always a pleasure to see another of your thread not knowing where you're going to take us, but knowing that each time will be enriching. So thank you for your presence, for sharing your ambient/ drones mixed with your love for literature and for letting all of us working our way on this track. Hopefully a few more members will add their contributions to bring more colours to an already very colourful bouquet!
I am going to spend some time with NoInputMixer which I just purchased. Something tells me @Gavinski 's tutorial will be helpful.

Cheers to all !

Ailerom

Would be nice to see the creations all in one thread. Just to capture the diversity side by side.

JanKun

@Ailerom said:
Would be nice to see the creations all in one thread. Just to capture the diversity side by side.

Maybe in the original thread from @Svetlovska ?

michael_m

@JanKun said:

@Ailerom said:
Would be nice to see the creations all in one thread. Just to capture the diversity side by side.

Maybe in the original thread from @Svetlovska ?

Sounds like a good idea.

Anyone up for collecting them together? (I would, only I’m at work and can’t focus on it for enough time right now).

Ailerom

@JanKun @michael_m Maybe we send the link (Soundcloud to @Svetlovska ) and it can be posted in the first post of the original thread, or a new one?

Krupa

@JanKun said:

@Krupa said:
Mmm this one’s really good, nice you gave yourself permission to get so into it. I think I’ve done the same thing with guitar solos since the nineties and rarely let myself do the fun stuff… sounds great and feels great, nice one 🤘

Thanks for chiming in ! It is definitely fun. Both you and me should indulge ourselves as long as we don't go for a 5+ minutes solo. Your version was great too. Your musical output on the forum is sparse lately. I hope you're doing well.

Cheers Jan, and I’ve maybe been a bit distracted with work the last months, I’ll be away a couple of weeks now as well, but taking the iPad so maybe I’ll do music in the evenings to save myself from late night drinking at this animation festival… we shall see, defo no solos while I’m away though, unless it’s shredding on the geo…

michael_m

@Ailerom said:
@JanKun @michael_m Maybe we send the link (Soundcloud to @Svetlovska ) and it can be posted in the first post of the original thread, or a new one?

Yes, the original thread would be a good place for this, especially if they are all in the first post.

Ailerom

@michael_m said:

@Ailerom said:
@JanKun @michael_m Maybe we send the link (Soundcloud to @Svetlovska ) and it can be posted in the first post of the original thread, or a new one?

Yes, the original thread would be a good place for this, especially if they are all in the first post.

Might wait to see if @Svetlovska is happy to put it all in the first post and we can just PM the links.

Svetlovska

Hi all, I’ve grouped the links as requested on the top of the original thread here:

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/57449/request-for-a-collab-by-popular-demand-updated-with-links-to-pieces#latest

I believe a couple of other people may still be working on their own versions, so if you aren’t here and you want to be, please PM me with relevant links, and I’ll add them to the first post.

Thanks again all for what turned out to be quite some wild ride.

GeoTony

My joint favourite version with @michael_m … great vocals and playing 🙏