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Explaining Deleuze with Drum Machines
Does exactly what it says on the tin:
The map is not the territory!
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It popped up on YT algorithm few days ago. Really great video!
Hah! I carry Thousand Plateaus with me many places hoping that one day I will understand it. I do love one particular page in it where he and Guattari express an idea something along the lines that a music synthesizer is something that philosophy should aspire to be as amazingly full of potential creativity,,,, or something like that
"When forces become necessarily cosmic, material becomes necessarily molecular, with enormous force operating in an infinitesimal space. Debussy … Music molecularizes sound matter and in so doing becomes capable of harnessing nonsonorous forces such as Duration and Intensity.
Enter the age of the Machine, the immense mechanosphere, the plane of cosmicization of forces to be harnessed. Varese’s procedure, at the dawn of this age, is exemplary: a musical machine of consistency, a sound machine (not a machine for reproducing sounds), which molecularizes and atomizes, ionizes sound matter, and harnesses a cosmic energy. If this machine must have an assemblage, it is the synthesizer. its synthesis is of the molecular and the cosmic, material and force, not form and matter, Grund and territory. Philosophy is no longer synthetic judgment; it is like a thought synthesizer functioning to make thought travel, make it mobile, make it a force of the Cosmos (in the same way as one makes sound travel)."
(Thousand Plateaus, D&G)
I’m pretty sure that was Korzybski?
Interesting, but I cringed at some of the comments about Suicide.
The drum sounds they used were never “industrial pounding”, and it’s not really true that punk was born from them.
@garden : yes, it was. But I was responding to the portion of the video discussing the difference between a map and a sticker. And anyway, whilst we are citing other philosophers on the subject:
“We say the map is different from the territory. But what is the territory? Operationally, somebody went out with a retina or a measuring stick and made representations which were then put on paper. What is on the paper map is a representation of what was in the retinal representation of the man who made the map; and as you push the question back, what you find is an infinite regress, an infinite series of maps. The territory never gets in at all. ... Always, the process of representation will filter it out so that the mental world is only maps of maps, ad infinitum.” - Bateson.
A cool point, but it’d be even cooler if he could have proved it with reference to tape delays in the work of Cabaret Voltaire.
plus/besides, D&G write at extreme length about territory, territorialization, deterritorialization, and very much as your Bateson quote, about regimes of signs that are signs signifying other signs, (IE maps not being territories)
(again, Thousand Plateaus,, light pub reading)
Bateson doesn’t get quoted enough in electronic music discussion.