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ANY collaboration software?
Has anyone used Muse (or any similar app) for collaborating with remote users successfully? Or recommend any other solutions? Thoughts?
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Nothing? Nobody's used Muse? Or any collaboration apps?
BandLab is decent. Easy to use, drop in your audio files and the shared project is updated. Muse looks cool. I might be starting a long distance collaboration soon so we might try Muse if it happens
During lockdown but not since.
Instead of wrestling with latency issues, the Cockos Ninjam approach is that whatever a person plays, will be heard by the other jammers a specified number of bars later.
Everybody hearing each other a set number of meaasures later than they actually performed, and in perfect sync, I found preferable to fighting with latency.
As it's open source and also available to self host, I set up that side of it on a Linode VPS (https://1984.is/ would be my present choice though) rather than rely on joining other rooms/servers.
I tried Jamtaba as a client for it which is standalone and looks great but didn't at that time work for me 🙁 so instead I used the ReaNinjam plugin in Reaper which works with zero problems. Played with a few of us and it was great.
(I have no use for it these days, and I don't think I would ever again try to play with anyone remotely. The best part of musicking to me is doing it with other people, that you like, presently, physically, in person, embodied.)
(The metronome is extremely annoying high pitched digital type of woodblock akin to Ableton default, so that's definitely better off replaced by something custom on a track).
You can record the individual user channels coming in to your daw uncompressed for later separate mixing.
https://cockos.com/ninjam/
http://jamtaba.com/
I haven't used Muse but I do love Endlesss. Great if you are into loopers. Also the desktop version allows you to just drag and drop your iOS recorded bits straight into a DAW without exporting stems etc. Does a bunch of neat things!
Thanks for these suggestions... we need to actually see each other's DAW, remotely. For years, we've been using OS X Screen Sharing, with Loopback passing the computer audio. Using Cubase remotely and natively to record and edit, both directions, between the U.S. and France. Latency isn't really an issue, because there's no need to play at the same time, just record remotely. Screen Sharing seems more and more unreliable, and the general consensus seems to be that collaborators are using newer computers, new DAW software, which has built-in collaboration software included. Going to try Muse and I'll report back.
This brings up another point of curiosity.... Why has Apple not taken the lead in developing tools to facilitate greater musician/production collaboration for GarageBand and Logic Pro? Their other apps almost all have collaboration and sharing as a central feature, but not the music and production apps. This is a major shortcoming on their part which they could easily address.