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I'm so tired of this kind of youtube video: "Can you really make music on an iPad?"

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  • GavinskiGavinski

    @michael_m said:

    @Svetlovska said:
    Bach fugues are just rearranging the same notes over and over again at different speeds. Call that music? ;)

    Pfft! He didn’t even use extended harmony, chromaticism or polytonality. He may as well have just been pressing a button on his harpsichord.

    Loooool

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @dendy said:

    @HotStrange said:
    It’s the same as those cranky old dudes in the comments on YouTube saying electronic music is just “pushing a button”. These people are so wrong but it gets too frustrating to constantly try to explain, so I just let them be wrong now.

    It's just one example of much wider problem.. people like commenting on topic where they lack deeper knowledge.

    But we can't stop trying to educate them. As Ricky Tines always say at end of his video "Knowledge is power, share the knowledge" :-)

    You’re a patient man Dendy, hats off!

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @dendy said:

    @HotStrange said:
    It’s the same as those cranky old dudes in the comments on YouTube saying electronic music is just “pushing a button”. These people are so wrong but it gets too frustrating to constantly try to explain, so I just let them be wrong now.

    It's just one example of much wider problem.. people like commenting on topic where they lack deeper knowledge.

    But we can't stop trying to educate them. As Ricky Tines always say at end of his video "Knowledge is power, share the knowledge" :-)

    This is true it just gets so frustrating after a while. Like banging my head against a wall. They definitely need educating though 🤣

  • dendydendy

    @HotStrange said:

    @dendy said:

    @HotStrange said:
    It’s the same as those cranky old dudes in the comments on YouTube saying electronic music is just “pushing a button”. These people are so wrong but it gets too frustrating to constantly try to explain, so I just let them be wrong now.

    It's just one example of much wider problem.. people like commenting on topic where they lack deeper knowledge.

    But we can't stop trying to educate them. As Ricky Tines always say at end of his video "Knowledge is power, share the knowledge" :-)

    This is true it just gets so frustrating after a while. Like banging my head against a wall. They definitely need educating though 🤣

    Take it easy, with humour .. there are much much worse things than that :smile:

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @dendy said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @dendy said:

    @HotStrange said:
    It’s the same as those cranky old dudes in the comments on YouTube saying electronic music is just “pushing a button”. These people are so wrong but it gets too frustrating to constantly try to explain, so I just let them be wrong now.

    It's just one example of much wider problem.. people like commenting on topic where they lack deeper knowledge.

    But we can't stop trying to educate them. As Ricky Tines always say at end of his video "Knowledge is power, share the knowledge" :-)

    This is true it just gets so frustrating after a while. Like banging my head against a wall. They definitely need educating though 🤣

    Take it easy, with humour .. there are much much worse things than that :smile:

    @dendy said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @dendy said:

    @HotStrange said:
    It’s the same as those cranky old dudes in the comments on YouTube saying electronic music is just “pushing a button”. These people are so wrong but it gets too frustrating to constantly try to explain, so I just let them be wrong now.

    It's just one example of much wider problem.. people like commenting on topic where they lack deeper knowledge.

    But we can't stop trying to educate them. As Ricky Tines always say at end of his video "Knowledge is power, share the knowledge" :-)

    This is true it just gets so frustrating after a while. Like banging my head against a wall. They definitely need educating though 🤣

    Take it easy, with humour .. there are much much worse things than that :smile:

    You’re right about that. Especially these days 😮‍💨

  • kitejankitejan

    Ah - the old "got to use professional gear to make proper music" argument. I used to worry about this kind of thing until I noticed on the credits of Tangerine Dreams "Alpha Centauri" album that Edgar Froese played a Coffee Machine. Unless I'm mistaken I don't think anyone is making a professional Coffee Machine synth (although it wouldn't surprise me if Behringer doesn't have one in development :-) ).

    Basically it all boils down to:
    1) does it make sound?
    2) can it make music that interests me?

    And anyway so what if its "limited" - its often the limits that inspire creation.

  • bygjohnbygjohn

    @michael_m said:

    @Svetlovska said:
    Bach fugues are just rearranging the same notes over and over again at different speeds. Call that music? ;)

    Pfft! He didn’t even use extended harmony, chromaticism or polytonality. He may as well have just been pressing a button on his harpsichord.

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • bygjohnbygjohn

    @kitejan said:
    Ah - the old "got to use professional gear to make proper music" argument. I used to worry about this kind of thing until I noticed on the credits of Tangerine Dreams "Alpha Centauri" album that Edgar Froese played a Coffee Machine. Unless I'm mistaken I don't think anyone is making a professional Coffee Machine synth (although it wouldn't surprise me if Behringer doesn't have one in development :-) ).

    Basically it all boils down to:
    1) does it make sound?
    2) can it make music that interests me?

    And anyway so what if its "limited" - its often the limits that inspire creation.

    Yup. I mean Klaus Schulze recorded his early albums straight to a stereo reel-to-reel. That includes half of Timewind, which won the Grand Prix du Disque (the other half was multitracked).

    And what constitutes “professional” anyway? Someone slapping “Pro” on the end of the name so the insecure feel like they’re playing with the big people now? 🙄

  • CluelessClueless
    edited October 2023

    So true.....but at the same time i still see and hear often things like "iOS music" or it was made "just with an iPhone".....what does that mean? NO one should care these days. It is just another computing device where you can enter midi notes in different ways and a thousand other things.
    It is really all just music and about the creative process or at least it should be.
    13 Years ago i started myself with "JUST" an iPhone 4 ;) (which my mother still use these days).

  • sevenapesevenape

    @Clueless said:
    So true.....but at the same time i still see and hear often things like "iOS music" or it was made "just with an iPhone".....what does that mean? NO one should care these days. It is just another computing device where you can enter midi notes in different ways and a thousand other things.
    It is really all just music and about the creative process or at least it should be.
    13 Years ago i started myself with "JUST" an iPhone 4 ;) (which my mother still use these days).

    You are definitely right and I usually put “made on my iPad” when I upload a video… it’s a throwback to when I started with instagram and my iPhone 4s. I felt a need to show how useful and capable it was. I should stop really, but I do feel a bit like evangelising. Tbh I feel kind of amazed that I can do these noisy warbling analogue sounding things on a slate like this. I do feel that people like to know the methods used… but maybe it’s moot at this point

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @sevenape @Clueless

    I usually don't mention when I make something on an iPad to be fair as everyone I know here mostly uses an iPad. However for me there's a certain novelty and sense of childlike wonder about making something on an iPhone. For one thing an iPhone has a smaller screen. For another it fits in my pocket (unlike an iPad Mini).

    iPads and iPhones are truly remarkable devices. I don't even own a Mac/PC anymore. This is how far along mobile computing has come.

    Yeah those "can you make music on iPad" videos can be rather tedious, but I do think that those Youtubers are coming from a sense of wonder and amazement. If anything they're advertising the fact you can make music on an iPad to the musicians as well as to the average person who honestly don't know any better.

    If you already know you can use an iPad to make music, you're probably not part of the target audience. 😉

  • reezyglereezygle
    edited October 2023

    It’s possible that producing music on iPad is many pro artists’ secret sauce that they don’t necessarily like to share. Either in fear of giving away their secret sauce or not being taken seriously by the industry because they make music on iPad.

    Kinda related example. I perform my own music live with iPad and all I need to perform live is the iPad. Heck I can DJ with nothing but my iPhone all night. But I can’t just show up at a show with an iPhone and an audio interface. It doesn’t look “professional” 🙂 “where’s the pioneer DJ controller?”

  • CluelessClueless
    edited October 2023

    I still think i did some of my best creative things on my iPhone 4 with mainly NanoStudio 1 and a few other apps while i have all the "pro" tools now and.... have no time at all beside digging around and makes some presets for synths, never finishing any track again.
    I mean for me it was a kind of evolution and without the wonderful early music creation apps and an iPhone i might never ever had started with creating music or making sound design.
    It is still just a hobby where i have no time for (even if i had some chances i did not used to make maybe more of it) anymore really but it still makes me happy and let me calm down after a very bad work day to play a bit with my music tools. So mostly i play and create for myself since anyway no one in my family cares about my creative side ;)
    I also do not buy much apps and plug-ins anymore and are happy with what i own. In theory it is enough to play with until i end one day in a body worlds exhibition.
    I am more of a silent member here and also in other music forums these days but i must say the community here is really more positve thinking mostly and not all that forum war i see everywhere else. So stay as you are guys and gals here.

  • SpidericemidasSpidericemidas

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    @sevenape @Clueless

    I usually don't mention when I make something on an iPad to be fair as everyone I know here mostly uses an iPad. However for me there's a certain novelty and sense of childlike wonder about making something on an iPhone. For one thing an iPhone has a smaller screen. For another it fits in my pocket (unlike an iPad Mini).

    iPads and iPhones are truly remarkable devices. I don't even own a Mac/PC anymore. This is how far along mobile computing has come.

    Yeah those "can you make music on iPad" videos can be rather tedious, but I do think that those Youtubers are coming from a sense of wonder and amazement. If anything they're advertising the fact you can make music on an iPad to the musicians as well as to the average person who honestly don't know any better.

    If you already know you can use an iPad to make music, you're probably not part of the target audience. 😉

    Same here, mate. We have very little use for a pc here in the Spider household anyway. A couple of years ago we realised that anything we were using the pc for, could now be done on our iPads, with a lot less fussing and titting about and anywhere anytime on our laps. No brainer for us. We ditched the pc completely. Space saver!

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