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[Logic Pro] Audio recorded early

edited October 2023 in Logic Pro

I have synced 2 drum machines (Roland TR-6s or Op-Z connected to the TX-6 as my audio interface) with the midi clock delay compensation with a negative delay to be perfectly in sync. Now when I am recording this audio, it will be recorded early, around 20-30ms. I tried every possible setting there is, new project, disconnecting gear and so on. There is no way to get latency compensated audio to be recorded in time. This is a huge bug and makes it completely useless for Sessions with external gear synced via midi clock.

On mac there is a function to set a recording delay, that might be a solution but this feature is missing on iPad.

Strange that no one is reporting about that. Has anybody experienced the same? I have not yet seen one video of someone syncing gear and recording that.

Comments

  • I’m finding the exact opposite!. Vocals are being recorded late and I have to nudge them manually. I don’t remember this ever happening so I’m guessing it might be the update?.
    Tried with different buffer settings, but buffer should only affect monitoring. Recording or whatever latency should automatically be compensated. Doesn’t seem to be the case…
    Am I missing something?.

  • Just read on another forum (link) that it might have to do with “Low latency monitoring” setting?. Doesn’t make sense to me, that should have an effect on monitoring, not the offset of recorded audio… I’ve used that on desktop and it didn’t make a difference about the actual recording.

  • One way to get a latency compensated audio recordings is to use the ‘External Instrument’ plug-in and pipe that to an AUX bus which is then used as the input source for an audio track armed for recording.

    Not ideal, but it works for my OG UNO synth.

    I suggest you send feedback to Apple about this issue.

  • edited November 2023

    @Samu said:
    One way to get a latency compensated audio recordings is to use the ‘External Instrument’ plug-in and pipe that to an AUX bus which is then used as the input source for an audio track armed for recording.

    Not ideal, but it works for my OG UNO synth.

    I suggest you send feedback to Apple about this issue.

    Really?. You’re facing the same issue?. I guess you’re recording the UNO synth as audio, so it’d be the same as what I’m getting with my mic…
    If that’s the case and Logic records audio late it’s a huuuge issue. Find it hard to believe. A DAW that doesn’t record audio in sync is….
    @samu do you know if this is a new issue after the update?. I don’t think it happened before.

    This is how much I have to offset the recording to align it, recorded with Behringer 204hd and 128 buffer. It’s very evident.

  • @tahiche said:

    Really?. You’re facing the same issue?. I guess you’re recording the UNO synth as audio, so it’d be the same as what I’m getting with my mic…

    Yes with the UNOSynth using USB-Midi since there's a slight delay between the midi sent to it and when it outputs audio.
    So if I use a plain audio-track to record the UNOSynth audio it's always a bit 'early' (I thought it would be later to be honest) due to latency compensation. The audio 'event' is however always on the spot where the recording starts.

    When I use the 'External Instrument' plug-in and pipe the audio thru a bus (I use a pre-fade AUX send and turn down the level) it's 'spot on'. No need to mess with the midi-latency settings.

    If that’s the case and Logic records audio late it’s a huuuge issue. Find it hard to believe. A DAW that doesn’t record audio in sync is….

    For regular audio like mic-input I have ZERO issues, it's always on time.
    I'm using an Audient ID4 Mk2 running at 48k.

    @samu do you know if this is a new issue after the update?. I don’t think it happened before.

    There was some 'fixes' for the compressors related to latency compensation when using side-chaining.
    Look-Ahead buffers are always tricky.

    One thing to try is to use the low-latency mode.

    This is how much I have to offset the recording to align it, recorded with Behringer 204hd and 128 buffer. It’s very evident.

    Do you have any look-head enabled in the compressors?
    What I mean is that the audio-event might start a bit earlier but the sound will still be spot on.

    Don't know if you've already tried to make a new session (after device reboot) and check if the 'thing' it's still there?

    Personally I very seldom record any audio other the occasional grunts into the microphone to make samples.

    Cheers!

  • @Samu said:

    @tahiche said:

    Really?. You’re facing the same issue?. I guess you’re recording the UNO synth as audio, so it’d be the same as what I’m getting with my mic…

    Yes with the UNOSynth using USB-Midi since there's a slight delay between the midi sent to it and when it outputs audio.
    So if I use a plain audio-track to record the UNOSynth audio it's always a bit 'early' (I thought it would be later to be honest) due to latency compensation. The audio 'event' is however always on the spot where the recording starts.

    When I use the 'External Instrument' plug-in and pipe the audio thru a bus (I use a pre-fade AUX send and turn down the level) it's 'spot on'. No need to mess with the midi-latency settings.

    If that’s the case and Logic records audio late it’s a huuuge issue. Find it hard to believe. A DAW that doesn’t record audio in sync is….

    For regular audio like mic-input I have ZERO issues, it's always on time.
    I'm using an Audient ID4 Mk2 running at 48k.

    @samu do you know if this is a new issue after the update?. I don’t think it happened before.

    There was some 'fixes' for the compressors related to latency compensation when using side-chaining.
    Look-Ahead buffers are always tricky.

    One thing to try is to use the low-latency mode.

    This is how much I have to offset the recording to align it, recorded with Behringer 204hd and 128 buffer. It’s very evident.

    Do you have any look-head enabled in the compressors?
    What I mean is that the audio-event might start a bit earlier but the sound will still be spot on.

    Don't know if you've already tried to make a new session (after device reboot) and check if the 'thing' it's still there?

    Personally I very seldom record any audio other the occasional grunts into the microphone to make samples.

    Cheers!

    I tried recording on a new, empty project and the audio was right in place. The project this happens on has a ton of plugins so it might be just one of them causing some miscalculation on the compensation, I have no idea. As you can on the screenshot, the audio is way off, not just a few ticks.
    I’ll try the low latency mode and see if it makes a difference.

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