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Here Somes the Sun
Hey folks!
I'm working on backing up my hardware synths with AUM/Auv3 setups. When I'm out performing I think I can pretty much cover the bases with meat'n'potato apps (RavenCroft/Pure Piano for acoustic piano, and IK Multimedia Hammond B-3x / VB3m for organ).
But I have to run particular songs that have stumped me with my current synth apps (Arturia iMini, iProphet, Synthmaster 1 & 2, Magellan 2, Kauldron, Moog Model D).
One in particular has been the two synth simple patches in The Beatles "Here Comes the Sun". The first is a flute-like (with LFO modulation) soft sine wave patch used over the into and the 2nd verse. The second is a more Sawtooth raw patch for the part underlying the singing of "Sun, Sun, Sun, here it comes").
I easily created both patches on my hardware keyboards (Yamaha CK61 & Roland FA-07). But I've tried writing the patches in my current app tribe, but in spite of having been around Synthesizers for decades, I can't, for the life of me, come up with the patches in Synthmaster, iMini, Model D, etc.
Has anyone made these patches? If so, in what apps? Would you be willing to share?
Dan
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You know what's the frustrating thing about this? With each attempt I run up against a brick wall. Here's an example:
When Poison 202 went on sale, I bought it and found I could immediately put together the two patches that approximates the Moog sounds in the song best. The problem I encountered was preparing them for performance. The song calls for the first patch to end with a downward glissando in the intro. In order to do that I had to have a way to switch from non-portamento (for the majority of the intro) to portamento (for the last note). There's a button in Poison 202 that accomplishes that but - most importantly for performance - is not assignable via midi learn. In fact, Poison 202 ONLY allows midi assign on potentiometer-style controls, not on/off.
I'm just wondering if iPadOS synths are simply not a good idea for performing musicians.
Wasn’t the Moog Modular that George Harrison played on the album broken in some way and had to be fixed by Moog? Maybe that’s part of the problem in reproducing the sound.
@michael_m said:
I've read conflicting accounts about that. One is as you described - one of his two moogs was malfunctioning. The other account is that they used a ribbon controller to perform the slide down.
If there were an affordable midi ribbon controller I could attach to my rig I'd be golden. But I haven't found that device.
I've found an interesting way to replicate the slide down in this song. The Roland FA series has something called a D-Beam that uses infrared sensors with hand movements as a controller/modifier.
This, of course, makes it better than the use of an iPad/midi controller with any app I've come across. (sigh).
Have you tried the Model 15 app? One of the keyboards somewhat approximates a ribbon controller.
Haven't tried it, but I honestly don't want to be touching the iPad during performance. I want to be able to map the function to my midi controller.
Over the weekend I replicated the patches for the song in SynthMaster 2. What I need to be able to do is map the "glide" control to something on my controller. It has to have min and max values so that the between-note-fumble with the fader/slider/expression-foot-pedal doesn't overshoot the portamento value for the last note of the intro (and 2nd verse). I'll give that a try once I get my akai back from the shop (keyboard rework).
It surprises me just how difficult it is to do somethings as simple as these on a song that was performed back when synthesizers were so much less complex. Of course, my reference is a studio recording where tracks could be overlaid as opposed to working live.