What are the hardships that Devs have to go through into making IOS Apps

knewspeak

@HotStrange said:

@dendy said:

@HotStrange said:

@SevenSystems said:

@HotStrange said:

@Tarekith said:
Users who can’t read a manual and then leave a bad review because they are clueless.

Yes. I wish we could reply to App Store reviews sometimes to tell these people RTFM!!

You can. It's in App Store Connect -> Ratings & Reviews.

(edit: I suspect you might have meant "as a user" 😄)

Exactly. Soooo many reviews I see have simple solutions. The one that gets me is people reviewing midi controllers and saying IT MAKES NO SOUND 😂 someone commented on one of Doug’s videos recently disparaging the new Cem app because it doesn’t make any sound. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Well, this is still nothing. When Matt uploaded first version of NS2 into appstore, he got rejected with reason that app stops making sound when minimalised.

Thing is - back then there was specifically in Apple rules mentioned that App must be installed with background audio turned off, and user should be just able to turn it on in settings :-))

Obviously even Apple approval reviewers doesn't have too much understanding of what they are reviewing and what are rules :-))):

Oh sorry for the confusion, I’m specifically talking about user reviews, as a customer. I’ve seen some really…ignorant reviews in the App Store before.

But yes the actual app reviewers seem completely out of the loop at times as well based on what I’ve read.

I’ve seen those reviews too, but they are what they are, uneducated opinions, anyone who knows what the app purports to do, know these reviews for what they are.

If anyone is unsure as to an app’s functionality they should research what it does or learn to use it.

For all subjects you are interested in try as much as possible to do your own research, ask questions if unsure in places like this forum.

pedro

Not being, or intending to become a dev myself, I find it ironic that one of the biggest companies on the planet can’t afford to get their shit together in regards to documentation

I guess I’m just assuming that it would be on their best interest to make things easier for developers to put apps out there for sale and collecting that sweet 30% margin but hey what do I know, it seems to be working pretty well for them with low-effort

quantovox

Actual API spec / documentation problems are fortunately very rare, but they've existed.

If you develop plugins, you'll not only have to follow the spec, but additionally you'll have to deal with the host applications' conformity to the spec. If a host app doesn't follow the specification, difficult decisions have to be made based on the behaviour of other host apps, and a lot of other factors (of course the first step is to try working with the developers).

Simon

The worst for developers is the big mouth guy online who says "if only this app had xxx feature, I'd buy it straight away , I'd pay $100 for that!"... and you know he wouldn't.

quantovox

The free trial feature in the App Store is slightly misunderstood

It's been a while last time we checked it, but if memory serves, one problem is that the app itself must deliver value to the user regardless of the limited time trial being activated or not, if the guidelines are to be interpreted strictly.
If it hasn't been updated since then, that definition probably leaves a lot of wiggle room, but can also mean a potentially very bad experience during an app review, if used as a way to implement classical app-level limited-time trial behaviour.

michael_m

@wim said:

@NeuM said:
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I’m done with that shit. It’s too hard to get a read on. 😎

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Those days are long gone though.

HotStrange

@knewspeak said:

@HotStrange said:

@dendy said:

@HotStrange said:

@SevenSystems said:

@HotStrange said:

@Tarekith said:
Users who can’t read a manual and then leave a bad review because they are clueless.

Yes. I wish we could reply to App Store reviews sometimes to tell these people RTFM!!

You can. It's in App Store Connect -> Ratings & Reviews.

(edit: I suspect you might have meant "as a user" 😄)

Exactly. Soooo many reviews I see have simple solutions. The one that gets me is people reviewing midi controllers and saying IT MAKES NO SOUND 😂 someone commented on one of Doug’s videos recently disparaging the new Cem app because it doesn’t make any sound. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Well, this is still nothing. When Matt uploaded first version of NS2 into appstore, he got rejected with reason that app stops making sound when minimalised.

Thing is - back then there was specifically in Apple rules mentioned that App must be installed with background audio turned off, and user should be just able to turn it on in settings :-))

Obviously even Apple approval reviewers doesn't have too much understanding of what they are reviewing and what are rules :-))):

Oh sorry for the confusion, I’m specifically talking about user reviews, as a customer. I’ve seen some really…ignorant reviews in the App Store before.

But yes the actual app reviewers seem completely out of the loop at times as well based on what I’ve read.

I’ve seen those reviews too, but they are what they are, uneducated opinions, anyone who knows what the app purports to do, know these reviews for what they are.

If anyone is unsure as to an app’s functionality they should research what it does or learn to use it.

For all subjects you are interested in try as much as possible to do your own research, ask questions if unsure in places like this forum.

I agree but I was replying in response to the OP with that being one of the hardships devs face. Seeing completely uninformed 1-2 star reviews on your app purely because the reviewer didn’t know what it was or didn’t read the description would be such a PITA. Especially when it start directly affecting their pockets.

I always research accordingly but unfortunately that’s not the case for everyone and they still want to review the app anyway.