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Bass played badly: A Strange Loop

“In the end, we self-perceiving, self-inventing, locked-in mirages are little miracles of self-reference.” -Douglas R. Hofstadter.

American polymath Hofstadter popularised the idea of the strange loop in his enormous and enormously best selling 1979 book, Gödel Escher and Bach, a kind of A Brief History Of Time in unlikely bestsellers of its day (which, like the Hawking book, I don’t profess to understand much of.)

His most provocative thought: that we ourselves, or at least our individual consciousness, our sense of ourselves as a distinct ‘I’, are no more than the emergent property of a series of nested, self referential ‘strange loops’:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Hofstadter

Given that this track was progressively built out of a series of tiny, sloppily played loops straining at the two or three note limit I can manage at a time on my cheapo Cort Precision knock off bass, and additionally incorporates a sample of a descending Shepard tone, it seemed an apt title. The bass, variously manipulated, is the only instrument used. No synth apps were employed. Vocal interjections courtesy of a live air traffic control station in Radio Unit, fed through YaleD. Usual reverbs apply.

Please feel free to critique :) I will hang upon your every word…

Comments

  • I like the discordant washes of sound and the context. For me, this evokes feeling automated, doing stupid work at a fast-pace, kind of bopping along but mentally being completely elsewhere, somewhere more fun

  • A tangled hierarchy, indeed.

    I loved this, even after listening to it 3 times.

    I’m going back for more.

  • Don’t know you could play bass. It’s never really about how many notes you play though, but how you use them.

    It’s definitely something that needs repeated listening as I feel like I missed something each time I hear it.

  • edited November 2023

    Thanks all for the listens and the comments. @myapologies ”mentally being elsewhere” - I can dig it. :) I love that @rottencat still likes it, even after having to listen to it 3 times :) And @michael_m, I can’t play any instrument, at all. You’re not the only one who missed something every time I played it… I had a smattering of out of time drumming punctuated by occasionally falling off my stool forty years ago, that’s it. But I try not to let the lack of any discernible musical skill stop me. Call me a multi non-instrumentalist. :)

  • @Svetlovska said:
    And @michael_m, I can’t play any instrument, at all. You’re not the only one who missed something every time I played it… I had a smattering of out of time drumming punctuated by occasionally falling off my stool forty years ago, that’s it. But I try not to let the lack of any discernible musical skill stop me. Call me a multi non-instrumentalist. :)

    To be honest I don’t really care if someone can make nice, in-time noises or not. As far as I’m concerned, if someone has the intent of making music with an instrument, then music it is. No question!

  • Wow this is really really good. What synth/sequencer are you using for the bass?

    Also I’ve never read any of his works but I’ve long heard about it and have seen plenty of quotes. I’ll have to add it to the list. Would you recommend a full read of it?

  • edited November 2023

    @HotStrange : No, no sequencer. It was actually me playing the Cort bass, raw, no fx, badly, out of time, looped several times, I then ran it through Gatelab to give it some periodicity, then added reverb.

    Full disclosure: the humongous Gödel Escher and Bach was a doorstep sized paperback at the time of my first job after uni, when I was working in a bookshop. I read it, enjoyed parts of it, but just like my later experience with A Brief History Of Time, I probably only understood about one word in three. (Actually, make that one word in ten.) It is not what I would call a light read. I am though, a bear of little brain. YMMV.

  • @Svetlovska said:
    @HotStrange : No, no sequencer. It was actually me playing the Cort bass, raw, no fx, badly, out of time, looped several times, I then ran it through Gatelab to give it some periodicity, then added reverb.

    Full disclosure: the humongous Gödel Escher and Bach was a doorstep sized paperback at the time of my first job after uni, when I was working in a bookshop. I read it, enjoyed parts of it, but just like my later experience with A Brief History Of Time, I probably only understood about one word in three. (Actually, make that one word in ten.) It is not what I would call a light read. I am though, a bear of little brain. YMMV.

    Oh an actual hardware bass? Nice! Gatelab is such a good freebie.

    That’s for that. I may or may not give it a shot. I love reading but it depends on how my ADHD brain wants to behave lol. I have a copy of House of Leaves I’m planning on starting soon though so it’ll be some time anyway.

  • edited November 2023

    Huh! Another doorstep. I did read that too. Quite liked it, the metaficitional, Lynchian stories within the story, the discursive footnotes etcetera. Even dare I say it, a little Lovecraftian in terms of non Euclidean space. Challenging, but in a different way. Good luck!

  • @Svetlovska said:
    Huh! Another doorstep. I did read that too. Quite liked it, the metaficitional, Lynchian stories within the story, the discursive footnotes etcetera. Even dare I say it, a little Lovecraftian in terms of non Euclidean space. Challenging, but in a different way. Good luck!

    Nice! David Lynch is my all time favorite artist so that’s great hear. I bought it probably 1.5 years ago, but I’m just now getting around to reading it 😅

  • Again, great atmosphere, very interesting!

  • Interesting and impressive. And it’s making me think it’s time I dug my guitars and bass out for an airing. Haven’t played them for years due to a problem with my hands, was just starting again when the pandemic struck and all the sanitising etc messed them up again. NB I’ve never been remotely competent with any of them! And I’ve definitely given up on “songs” per se, so who knows what (if anything) will come of this.

  • Your nack for creating great music out of almost anything shines through on this one. Enjoyed it. I think it reminded me of Spirit in the Sky by NG for some reason 🤨

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