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Notebook with touchscreen - like a bigger ipad :)
Anyone have experience with notebook touchscreen (Windows) with music making DAWs, plugins, etc. I'm considering 2 in 1 notebook only to feel the touch 
But maybe someone tried to do that and could share his thoughts
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Like a Lenovo or HP? Those are Windows computers…
yes, I know, but I'm asking only about how it feels
So are you wanting to use it in tandem with an iPad or just on its own for the fun of it?
I’ve been looking into getting a windows tablet myself just to run a few free plugins into my iPad to sample them.
No, just use Windows plugins, DAWs and make music with touch feel, like on ipad. I know that desktop plugins are not prepared for touch, so that is why I'm asking for opinions
It’s an older article but this one from Sound On Sound:
https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/multi-touch-music-software-windows
has a lot of info on touchscreen technology on the Windows side. I’ve seen firsthand setups with the Steven Slate Raven controller plugged into a laptop and it was all based on drivers & compatible software. I imagine if a laptop has a capacitive touchscreen built in it’s going to be software dependent.
check out molten modular on youtube, he uses a lot of microsoft surface apps.
My two cents is this:
I bought a Dell touch screen computer for music, and specifically for Giorgio sancristoforo's apps. They are stand alone and work well... not perfect but certainly doable with touch. Reaktor synths and stuff also work OK, BUT as you get into vsts and stuff, you really need a DAW as the options for dawless vst hosting are not much fun, there's nothing anywhere near as good as AUM for windows. If you don't mind using a limited vst hoster or a DAW, i think you can mostly get away with it... And then there is Bitwig which has been optimised for touch, although I've never used it.
The dell is 11" and has a good battery, but I find myself reaching for the ipad mini 99% of the time, it just feels better using it... If there's no ios counterparts to what you'd like to use then I think you'll mostly be able to use the synths and whatnot, but be aware that some won't work as flawlessly as you'd expect
@MAtrixplan Don’t forget to take into account whether the notebook’s touchscreen is compatible with an active stylus or not - in my experience this makes a real difference to what is usable and what is not in terms of UI. A stylus with a pen-like tip is a lot more accurate than a finger. Maybe it’s just a personal preference though?
Thanks. I'm not optimistic about software that has already prepared interface for a touch, but rather curious if it is very difficult to operate with standard Windows programs and touchscreen.
small notebook with touch screen is nowhere near to iPad.
because it has desktop OS, and thus desktop software prices that are HUGE comparing to iPad.
I'm not giving up on ipad, and I have lots of already purchased vst software and wondering about touching them
I used to use a Surface Book with Ableton and TouchOSC on the same device so as to design a more stage friendly UI for myself. Windows is horrible for audio. So much config to get audio performance and it would still run extremely hot, and have not great results out of latencymon, had to do things like disable power management even. Terrible. I get far better performance out of silicon ipad pro than windows laptops (i've had many other laptops, Dell, Sony, Samsung, and a few Macbook Pros). M1 and M2 make for the least problems, IMHO
oh but your question was about the touch experience, sorry, i missed the point there. yeah it is fine
This is a good point, I use a stylus and some vsts like audiothing's noises, play a bit weird with those.
I've been working with a Lenovo tablet running Windows 10 for about 2 years now.
My #1 conclusion is that it really depends on which software you're using.
U-he synths, Ableton Live (in zoomed mode), Sugarbytes plugins and the few companies that basically release the same app for both iOS and Windows are quite a safe bet.
And I don't expect more than that.
With the majority of audio software, it's quite apparent that it just wasn't built with touch operation in mind.
In some software, you cannot even realistically operate the controls by finger or pencil, and another big issue is that not all plugins support zooming the way it would be required for stress free operation.
With this kind of software, I found myself using the virtual touchpad repeatedly and that's not really a fun experience.
If you restrict yourself to only use what works well then that's good.
There is also a touch "enabler" software called XotoPad which allows you to build custom MIDI control surfaces for controlling plugins on the same tablet but I consider this a last resort if you really need to use a certain plugin on the tablet.
Needless to say that I much prefer using Lemur on iPad to control VSTs and VSTis.
Making sounds on a touchable Repro-5 is really fun though!
Nice! I didn't know TouchOSC was available on Windows too 😊
I cannot confirm that Windows is horrible for audio, maybe for Bluetooth indeed but audio totally depends on driver quality.
For class compliant USB interfaces or even the native audio driver for the tablet hardware, Asio4All does a great job (low latency without dropouts).
I can confirm though that the tablet runs hot as soon as I'm using a more demanding plugin like U-he Repro and to keep it click-free, it's a good idea to keep power connected.
I have a rather old tablet though (6 years old) and I suspect that more recent CPUs would run better and less hot, at least after going through the heaps of eliminating the insanely huge amount of Microsoft spy- and annoyware BS.
to be slightly fairer, it's impossible for me to claim all windows machines given the remarkable disparity. but a lot of them are pretty bad no matter the driver. yes improved with decent drivers of course (motu, rme, focusrite), but thats 1 of about 70 other factors, including the damn power management. and yes re that point about amount of work to be done to de-spy the damn things. but anyway. i'm not disagreeing with you.
Power management is another critical element indeed.