There Will Never Be Another You (DerVoco vocoder)

pbelgium

One of my favourite jazz standards played on guitar through BeepStreet's DerVoco vocoder - the closest I'll ever get to singing.

Fender Strat -> Faceman -> DerVoco -> Delay3000 -> MagicVerb

Guitar only version (no DerVoco).

HotStrange

Love this! DerVoco is my favorite vocoder on iOS. And MagicVerb makes everything better haha

pbelgium

Thanks for listening @HotStrange. DerVoco is a lot of fun. It reminds me of getting my first Cry Baby - wah-wah on everything!
(Completely agree, MagicVerb is, for want of a better word, magic.)

Paulieworld

Would you consider doing a take on this without the vocoder? I just love listening to your guitar playing.

pbelgium

@Paulieworld said:
Would you consider doing a take on this without the vocoder? I just love listening to your guitar playing.

No problem. Added the guitar take on its own to the main post - the vocoder part is on a separate track. It does sound good just with the Nembrini Faceman - my go-to amp sim at the moment. Thanks for listening and the suggestion.

McD

Thanks for adding the 2nd version, I like the sound of that guitar rig and catching all the nuances of your playing.
@espiegel123 has some nice guitar solos on SoundCloud. I like this one a lot:

Paulieworld

Nice! That's what I like. I'm tasting it. Thanks.

AlterEgo_UK

Very nice playing @pbelgium - I think I prefer the guitar only version, though.
The @espiegel123 track posted by @McD is also very enjoyable.

LinearLineman

There will never be another you.

pbelgium

Thanks for listening @Paulieworld (again), @McD, @AlterEgo_UK, @LinearLineman. You are right, the guitar-only version does sound better (especially with the Faceman). There goes my idea of making an entire album of vocoder/guitar jazz standards.

rs2000

@pbelgium said:
Thanks for listening @Paulieworld (again), @McD, @AlterEgo_UK, @LinearLineman. You are right, the guitar-only version does sound better (especially with the Faceman). There goes my idea of making an entire album of vocoder/guitar jazz standards.

I wouldn't give up so early. Using the vocoder directly on the guitar track without anything else sounds somewhat raw and unbalanced. I would start playing with the following setup:
Track 1 has the original guitar recording
Track 2 has the same but is processed by a reverb with longer tail (or a convolution reverb with some white noise loaded) plus EQ for shaping the sound, plus the vocoder.
Track 3 might have your vocal take to feed the vocoder.
Tracks 1 and 2 are mixed to taste.
I would delay all tracks by maybe half a second and then offset them against each other and play with EQ settings until the vocoded guitar complements the original, clean guitar the best.

pbelgium

@rs2000 said:

@pbelgium said:
Thanks for listening @Paulieworld (again), @McD, @AlterEgo_UK, @LinearLineman. You are right, the guitar-only version does sound better (especially with the Faceman). There goes my idea of making an entire album of vocoder/guitar jazz standards.

I wouldn't give up so early. Using the vocoder directly on the guitar track without anything else sounds somewhat raw and unbalanced. I would start playing with the following setup:
Track 1 has the original guitar recording
Track 2 has the same but is processed by a reverb with longer tail (or a convolution reverb with some white noise loaded) plus EQ for shaping the sound, plus the vocoder.
Track 3 might have your vocal take to feed the vocoder.
Tracks 1 and 2 are mixed to taste.
I would delay all tracks by maybe half a second and then offset them against each other and play with EQ settings until the vocoded guitar complements the original, clean guitar the best.

Interesting set-up, I'll give it a try. What's the purpose of the white noise?

R_2

@rs2000 said:

@pbelgium said:
Thanks for listening @Paulieworld (again), @McD, @AlterEgo_UK, @LinearLineman. You are right, the guitar-only version does sound better (especially with the Faceman). There goes my idea of making an entire album of vocoder/guitar jazz standards.

I wouldn't give up so early. Using the vocoder directly on the guitar track without anything else sounds somewhat raw and unbalanced. I would start playing with the following setup:
Track 1 has the original guitar recording
Track 2 has the same but is processed by a reverb with longer tail (or a convolution reverb with some white noise loaded) plus EQ for shaping the sound, plus the vocoder.
Track 3 might have your vocal take to feed the vocoder.
Tracks 1 and 2 are mixed to taste.
I would delay all tracks by maybe half a second and then offset them against each other and play with EQ settings until the vocoded guitar complements the original, clean guitar the best.

+1
The vocoder version sounds cool!
Definitely experiment more with it (maybe add a little Beepstreet Combuster here and there)

rs2000

@pbelgium If you add attack and decay to the white noise before loading it as an IR, that's great for "smearing" the recently played guitar sounds into one pad. (Velvet Machine does the same btw.).
Definitely try different IR lengths - the longer it is, the more of your played notes it will "combine into the pad sound".

GeoTony

Great tune, my preference fwiw is for the straight guitar version. Lovely playing 🙏

pbelgium

Thanks for listening @R_2, been sidetracked by my latest app acquisition, Springs - very good - but will get back to the vocoding later.
Thanks for the kind words @GeoTony - your delayed response tactic is a good idea.