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  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @raabje said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    If the two loops play at once, would they be the same length?

    I guess it depends on the complexity of the chords that are played, and the relationship between chords in the rhythm, and the chord notes played in the lead part.

    When it is only a vamp, or two chords that repeats themself the whole time, the rhythm loop can be short, and the lead loop can be longer.

    I think initially keep them the same length would be the best, to keep things simple.

    If they aren’t the same length, what are the length relationships you would want available?

  • raabjeraabje

    @espiegel123 said:
    If they aren’t the same length, what are the length relationships you would want available?

    I guess maybe 4 bar for rhythm, and 8 or 16 bar for lead. It has to be synchronized, so not an odd number like 4 bar with 11 bar, then the relationship is broken after one cycle.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @raabje said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    If they aren’t the same length, what are the length relationships you would want available?

    I guess maybe 4 bar for rhythm, and 8 or 16 bar for lead. It has to be synchronized, so not an odd number like 4 bar with 11 bar, then the relationship is broken after one cycle.

    So, loop b, could be any multiple of loop a? (Btw, that in case you don’t know that is done by by setting record in/out quantize to master and having master set by loop a.

  • raabjeraabje

    @espiegel123 said:
    So, loop b, could be any multiple of loop a? (Btw, that in case you don’t know that is done by by setting record in/out quantize to master and having master set by loop a.

    Yes that is right, b should be any multiple of a.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @raabje and anyone else. I am wondering if you prefer the setup know where there is essentially one pedal per loop…or rather one pedal to change the active loop and the other pedals to apply to the active loop?

  • raabjeraabje

    @espiegel123 said:
    @raabje and anyone else. I am wondering if you prefer the setup know where there is essentially one pedal per loop…or rather one pedal to change the active loop and the other pedals to apply to the active loop?

    I think you refer to a midi pedal board to switch the loops? I still don't own such a device. Maybe I order the M-Vav Chocolate, since the reviews of the Irig Blueboard are mixed. I also spotted a used Icon G board in my area.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    Here is what I think is the finished version for now of the quantized version of this project.

    Let me know if there is anything about how to use this that isn't clear. I haven't put together docs or a video walkthrough. Time is short and I'd like to know what isn't clear before I put together supporting materials.

    Depending on how things go, I may look into configuring it with a 'one-at-a-time' on/off switch. (Note that all of the "fancy" stuff in this project was really only needed for one-at-time setup to guarantee that loop 1 finished before loop 2 started recording. Two loops running together doesn't need any of the shenanigans I used)

  • espiegel123espiegel123
    edited November 2023

    Also, I'd love to know from someone if the BYOD instances come up with the correct patches. They should look something like:


  • raabjeraabje
    edited November 2023

    @espiegel123 said:
    Also, I'd love to know from someone if the BYOD instances come up with the correct patches. They should look something like:

    Yes, BYOD loads in the this project.


    The whole project looks impressive, thanks! I am going to try it ASAP.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    Trying out the BYOD presets I added to the project:

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/58513/not-the-usual/p1?new=1

  • xmortenxxmortenx

    @espiegel123
    Thank you so much for all your effort - its truly amazing and very inspiring to experience :)

    Im still using the original non quantized version. Is perfect and simple and does excatly what a Boss Rc 500 dual loop station does. To me getting a proper ending is not a problem I just do a simple strumming pattern on the last chord to get enough time to touch the screen. I tampered a little with the original design so I now have massive trigger buttons - that way it takes no effort to just slap the free hand on the screen.

    I will download and try the new version and study the Pdf. Again thanks for the effort !!!. The old one works still on my ipad - perhaps Loopy has not been updated yet

    Morten :)

  • xmortenxxmortenx

    Here is a screenshot of espiegel’s Rc 500 with trigger buttons for elephant hands :)

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @xmortenx said:
    Here is a screenshot of espiegel’s Rc 500 with trigger buttons for elephant hands :)

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    Great! Glad you are getting use out of it

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @raabje : I've implemented switching between one-at-a-time mode and two loops in parallel. I've added a merge (useful only in parallel mode) button the merges loop B into loop a

    when i finish the functional implementation, I'll probably reorganize and simplify the layout...probably moving a lot of the buttons to another page since they might be a distraction and not generally needed. I am still figuring that out.

    i am going to see if i can add the totally free mode without breaking anything.

  • raabjeraabje

    @espiegel123 said:
    @raabje : I've implemented switching between one-at-a-time mode and two loops in parallel. I've added a merge (useful only in parallel mode) button the merges loop B into loop a

    when i finish the functional implementation, I'll probably reorganize and simplify the layout...probably moving a lot of the buttons to another page since they might be a distraction and not generally needed. I am still figuring that out.

    i am going to see if i can add the totally free mode without breaking anything.

    Great to see you take it to a higer level. Looks promising!

  • espiegel123espiegel123
    edited December 2023

    I have a version for people to try. It now can be free or quantized when one-at-a-time and has a multi mode as shown in the video a couple of posts above.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    I removed the version I posted because I found a bug in its settings. Here is a better version

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    I am wondering if a less busy main page would be an improvement. I've been thinking about something like this:

  • raabjeraabje
    edited December 2023

    @espiegel123 said:
    I am wondering if a less busy main page would be an improvement. I've been thinking about something like this:

    I still have no spare time to check the new version (busy with family things). So I cannot contribute to this question.

    But this week I did build a knob template to control the THU rig player and pedals, and working with separate pages works great. I can see the huge power of Loopy Pro (but I need to do more effort to get full access to it).

  • raabjeraabje
    edited December 2023

    I have used the newest version now. I think it works pretty nicely. I found an interesting knob in on the last page, a knob for presets of BYOD. I can use such a knob in my own THU project.

    And as a result I finally ordered the M Vav Chocolate, my conclusion is this RC500 project is better to control with a footswitch, then it makes more sense. Friday it should arrive, so next weekend I can try the RC500 again. I ordered from Amazon, 46 euro (unit only, no midi transponder), bit more expensive than A-E but delivery is quicker and there is no chance customs will charge more, and I can send it back under warranty.

    I think the M Vave Chcocolate will also work good with the Enso looper in AUM, I cannot work with that one with the touch screen.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @raabje : a foot pedal is pretty essential for realtime guitar looping in my opinion. I resisted for way too long. For a while, I used a little keyboard on the ground as my pedal.

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