Patch Base Question

looperboy

Is it the case that patch base doesn’t display or edit the performance patch parameters of a synth, when a synth has a performance setting?

For example, I’ve been trying patch base for the dx7ii and the Roland d10, both of which involve layering two sounds to make a performance patch. But these parameters don’t seem to be available in patch base. Am I doing something wrong, or is patch base missing this important feature?

gusgranite

Which app are you referring to?

Telefunky

Patch Base is a sysex controller app for external hardware synths.
(sorry, no idea about the performance layering)

knewspeak

Patch Base should be able to edit one synth at a time, configuring two patches on different synths used as a layer could be done via bank and program changes, separate to editing, but if using the same channel you would have to make sure PC numbers are mapped and saved correctly on both synths.

Telefunky

Looperboy refers to the performance parameters of each the DX7/2 and the Roland D10.
These synths can layer patches in a „performance“, but it‘s obscure (atm) if this feature is accessible via sysex at all.

knewspeak

@Telefunky said:
Looperboy refers to the performance parameters of each the DX7/2 and the Roland D10.
These synths can layer patches in a „performance“, but it‘s obscure (atm) if this feature is accessible via sysex at all.

I understand now, the parameters would need to be accessible via sysex and then saved via sysex, to edit and save multitimbral performance patches.

looperboy

@gusgranite said:
Which app are you referring to?

patch base

looperboy

@knewspeak said:
Patch Base should be able to edit one synth at a time, configuring two patches on different synths used as a layer could be done via bank and program changes, separate to editing, but if using the same channel you would have to make sure PC numbers are mapped and saved correctly on both synths.

I’m talking about synths like the DX7ii and the D20 etc which make a performance patch by layering two patches within the same synth. These performance patches can be saved as sysex, and shared between users as sysex files. So they must be accessible via sysex

looperboy

@Telefunky said:
Looperboy refers to the performance parameters of each the DX7/2 and the Roland D10.
These synths can layer patches in a „performance“, but it‘s obscure (atm) if this feature is accessible via sysex at all.

These performance patches can be edited in sysex editors like Midiquest. The feature is 100% accessible via sysex.

looperboy

@looperboy said:

@Telefunky said:
Looperboy refers to the performance parameters of each the DX7/2 and the Roland D10.
These synths can layer patches in a „performance“, but it‘s obscure (atm) if this feature is accessible via sysex at all.

These performance patches can be edited in sysex editors like Midiquest. The feature is 100% accessible via sysex. These patches are fundamental to the D20 and DX7ii. I’m not sure why patch base claims to be able to edit these synths if it doesn’t edit performance patches.

gusgranite

@looperboy said:

@gusgranite said:
Which app are you referring to?

patch base

Right. Sorry, not much help with that

Telefunky

@looperboy said:
These performance patches can be edited in sysex editors like Midiquest. The feature is 100% accessible via sysex.

thanks for the information