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Which master sounds better? Comparing my usual chain to LP4i's Mastering Assistant...
One version was mastered in Logic Pro with its AI assistant, and one was mastered with my usual chain of MagicDeathEyeStereo, Reelbus, and Barricade. I'm not saying which one is which. Two versions on the same track of the same section of my song "I Am the DJ" from the "2005" EP.
So, which one sounds better to your ears? 
Vote in the poll.
- Which one in the audio file sounds better?14 votes
- The first master.21.43%
- The second master.78.57%
Comments
So far, the poll shows "the second master" as the clear winner, and I happen to agree. The SECOND master is the one mastered by LP4i's AI Mastering Assistant, and jfc it sounds amazing! Well worth $5/month just for that! Yeah, I may still produce my tracks in other apps, but LP4i is where they end up to be polished.
I voted for the second by a wide margin. I can hear all of the instruments much better. Best example being the crack of the snare in the second half I think. All the drum hits in the second sound more powerful and better separated to me.
Yeah, I don't know how LP4i did it, but good god. It made my track go from "just okay" to "holy shit", lol.
That’s incredible. I’ll definitely consider subbing when I have a batch of tracks ready for the mastering assistant. Thanks for sharing! And cool track!
Thanks mate.
And yes, that sounds like a good plan to me. $5/month means one less latte from Starbucks, but instead you can mastering as much as you can toss at Logic, lol. Man my mind is blown.
Night and day difference to me. The second one shines, has cleaned up the mud and added depth and clarity.
Man, I'm so glad to hear Logic's Mastering Assistant winning the battle. Means I can pump out better music without having to bother wasting time with mastering. 😃
Logics mastering assistant is pretty good it didn’t beat my chain and my skill…but it got so close that I said yes to it from here out as it literally takes 15 seconds versus my 30 minutes to two hours sometimes…and time is money
I will still run a sub master bank though using slow bus compression
Wow I might need to resub to logic once my new usb hub gets here and I’m able to clear up some space onto my SSD. I’ve been happy with the one in BandLab but the one in Logic seems really great. Damn it. 😂
I quite enjoy futzing around on the master but who am I kidding, the ai’s gonna do a much better job than me. Be interesting to see how it compares with the one in the FL Studio sub. I already own FL Studio and don’t own an iPad. At least not yet.
On the first take, kicks are boomy, and claps do not sound like claps, more like an open hi-hat. The second take is better, but too clean for my ears. I will definitely try with other limiter types.
All in all, Logic MA is a fantastic tool for this fantastic song! 🤩
It has unassumingly become the proverbial game changer in my book
I voted for the second one, but hesitantly.
It sounds superficially better (by which I mean it’s immediately more in your face), but to my ears is a lot more squished dynamically, and a bit unrelenting, whereas the first one is more open and less wearing.
Which kind of confirms my suspicions (or reinforces my prejudices) re mastering. I suspect it matters more for certain types of music than for others, though, and this is a “horses for courses” situation.
Whenever I’ve tried to do to my own stuff, either “properly” or using magic mastering tools, all it’s done is kill the spatial stuff I’ve carefully put in and flatten stuff out that should be dynamic. Just occasionally I’ve managed to make a dull sounding take sound better by using Bark Filter tripleband, but mostly that just messes things up, too. I have GF2, and find that either I can’t hear it doing anything or it just mangles things horribly, even using its presets - even its “gentle mastering” preset just sounds terrible to me, and anything but gentle!
@jwmmakerofmusic that’s a great side-by-side demo. The improvement is not subtle.
Interesting demo. I agree with the above and voted for the first take - more dynamic range, less squished. The second is louder. I wonder how Trinity and GF2 would compare.
Both are great. In fact, what I think I’m going to do is remaster my song OP1-Fury with my iOS mastering chain TB EQ>GF2>TB Barricade
Or just GF2 + barricade (for limiter insurance but that’s just me)
Anyone should have GF2 on iOS. For $6 you get something incredible and in your daw
I absolutely agree. The beefier tracks created with heavy multiband decompression will have that pasteurising effect (BBC RADIO 1!). I guess it’s about not pushing it as much as for it to be clearly audible.
It also goes without saying that the input audio has to be well mixed with no spiking frequencies or auto mastering software will struggle with it