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Questions: AUM with Koala and Korg Gadget, sampling Gadget into Koala
I want to use Koala and Korg Gadget 2 together. Everything points to AUM but I have a few questions. My setup is iPad Mini 6 256gb + powered USB hub with some midi controllers (NanoKey Studio, NanoKontrol2, Presonus Atom) and USB-C headphone out.
I'd rather mix stems on a computer and use the iPad to combine Koala + synths/effects to jam, sequence, and record iso's for export so AUM seems like a better option than a DAW like Cubasis.
I read the AUM manual, watched some videos, and did my googlin' but still have a few questions:
(1). Within AUM can I route the audio output of Gadget directly into Koala's input for sampling? I want to play a Gadget synth live into Koala and sample it but also be able to just play it from Gadget's sequencer and record that audio into Koala.
If this is possible, then: let's say I have a Gadget bass synth 1 bar sequence I want to sample into Koala. Can I independently play Gadget's sequencer without triggering Koala's sequencer and if not can I just keep a sequence blank in Koala and switch to that when recording into Koala (so Koala stays silent)? I do most of my work in Koala so always have active sequences running. And again, assuming all this is possible: would the audio be going directly from Gadget into Koala or will it pass through any effects I have on the Gadget channel in AUM?
(2). Can I directly record audio from YouTube into Koala through AUM? I read about auv3 plugins like Web Audio Player and Tube AU but have seen conflicting info about if they work or are currently broken. Screen recording works okay on my phone but is kinda annoying on iPad and I'd love to directly connect YouTube's audio output to Koala internally.
(3). Do I need to re-do the midi mapping process with Koala running in AUM or will it send my midi notes directly from a controller when I connect it through the midi matrix? I have my midi controllers all custom mapped.
And will I still be able to use my Nanokey Studio's X-Y functions (Touch Scale, Pitch/Mod, custom X-Y) in Korg Gadget 2 like I can now? I'm new to Korg Gadget 2 and the Nanokey Studio is automapped for Gadget and I'd prefer to keep it like that and don't know how I would remap some of the X-Y stuff as some modules don't show pitch/mod wheel controls. I know this can all be figured out but would prefer a route with the least headaches.
(4). Are there any issues with AUM as a masterclock for Koala and Korg Gadget 2? I'm trying to avoid adding a third-party sequencer so wondering if hitting play in AUM will trigger both Koala and Gadget's sequencers at the same time and also allow me to seamlessly change patterns in each app while everything is playing? I worked a bunch in audio for live broadcast so not worried if I have to manually adjust for any delay.
(5). When I set Koala's individual outs (main + 7) in AUM do these act as multiple versions of Koala running or are they all being fed out from one version? I don't know if doing 8 outs from Koala + a few synths in Gadget will use up a bunch of my iPad Mini 6's CPU and I'd like some CPU headroom to add effects.
The only thing that worries me is I've read AUM is single core only whereas Cubasis can utilize multicore. I don't have an m1 iPad and the A14 isn't slow but trying to maximize what I have. I use very short samples in Koala (drum hits and <30sec samples that get chopped) and 1-4 synth modules in Gadget.
(6). I use an 8BitDo Micro game controller in Procreate (I can change keybinds for each button). Will I be able to use Koala's QWERTY keyboard keybinds while it's running in AUM, and is there any QWERTY keyboard support for AUM itself?
I'm on a tight budget so I can't really afford to buy/try a bunch of options (recently got Korg Gadget after waiting for it to go on sale) so trying to find one solution that ticks most of the boxes. Speaking of which I'm pretty excited about all of the free/low cost auv3 effects, if you have any favorites please let me know!
Appreciate any help, thanks!
Comments
As far as feeding Gadget into AUM, you can load Gadget as an IAA and then get all the sound at once. There is no multi out from Gadget apart from regular export, so you'll have to mute/solo selectively while sampling.
It's easy to sample anything playing in AUM with Koala by using it in AUM, so no issues there and you can have different things going on at once, with Koala only sampling what you route to it. You can also stack as many effects as you like before or after where you place Koala in AUM.
DON'T REMAP midi controls in Gadget. If you do, you might screw up various templates or apps that use the default mappings. There is no easy way to reset them aside from a complete reinstall of Gadget!
The other technical questions are beyond me
Perfect as I was only planning on recording one module at a time into Koala. Thanks for info about audio routing and heads-up on midi mapping in Gadget!
Some partial answers:
Going to do that now, thanks for the help! The first thing I listed (sampling Gadget in Koala) was the most important to me so knowing that's solid is very reassuring. Excited to play around in AUM! I left the sound industry during the pandemic and it sounds silly but I really missed the puzzle that is signal routing.
Also lucky because my USB interface (Audient Evo 4) works great with iOS and Android and I have an old phone with a headphone out so can always go that route if screen record annoys me enough.
The "compatible apps" section on the AB Forum says it does.
Thanks for the help, got AUM!
Use Koala in the effect slot instead and you're ready to record from Gadget using Bus Send
To add to this - not sure if this is what you’re looking for but if you want to grab tracks from YT and it doesn’t have to be playing at the same time this could help.
Also, it’s not a full proof plan as stated it’s a hack that as of late works most of the time. This shortcut got updated recently and has been working for well for the me.
The latest ‘All Media Downloader’ shortcut to download YouTube videos even music from YouTube Music. It only gives 720p as an option though. It also has an ‘Audio’ option but it doesn’t work well so I don’t use it.
https://routinehub.co/shortcut/12835/
If you’re comfortable with Shortcuts, add this and make sure it’s accessible on the Share Sheet. From there just go through the prompts when activated.
When using the shortcut for;
YouTube - 95% of the time it works. The time it takes is all over the place when downloading videos depending on server load I believe. When it’s running fast, I got a 2 hour YT video in under 2 minutes. Shorter ones under 20 like 30-45 seconds.
YT music - as I said I don’t use the audio option. I just click the video option and extract the audio from the video in either Wavebox, Koala, or Ferrite for my workflow. I downloaded a ton of songs the other day and after a restart of my device it got any song in under a minute.
Apologies if I misunderstood the desired workflow. The above method has been super helpful for me. Just figured I might as well share it in case anyone can make use of this info. Cheers.
Just use IAA. Or export the phrases out of gadget as sound files and load them into koala
Another solution: if you happen to have an iPhone you can download gadget again, then just plug direct into it through your audio interface input… Honestly I find this a lot more stable and easier than IAA, as bouncing back and forth between gadget and AUM can be a pain
You can also quickly airdrop gadget projects back and forth between iOS devices - works pretty smoothly
From your description my first thought was whether there is a specific reason to record into Koala in real-time, otherwise I think it would be simpler to just bounce/drag/drop audio files. Someone else mentioned exporting from Gadget, but AUM also has record buttons on every channel, which look very basic but they are surprisingly useful as they can be synchronised to the beat and quantised to the bar so you can easily create short loops of the sections you want to use then play them back as loops in the same track using its internal file player.
on the topic more generally, I kind of decided a long time ago that it's not worth over-complicating and trying to do too much on the more technically complex side of things. Having too many things going at once that could go wrong just makes everything more stressful and distracts from the performance and trying to give people a good night.