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What’s your go to “jam” setup for iOS?

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  • scrapescrape

    I should of mentioned Note too. I use it a lot and it’s one of the easiest ways to get something started. Ingenious app, clearly influenced by some iOS classics but does it’s own thing and is so easy to transfer to desktop if you have Ableton.

    I’m going to get into ApeMatrix in a bit more depth soon

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @scrape said:
    I should of mentioned Note too. I use it a lot and it’s one of the easiest ways to get something started. Ingenious app, clearly influenced by some iOS classics but does it’s own thing and is so easy to transfer to desktop if you have Ableton.

    I’m going to get into ApeMatrix in a bit more depth soon

    I don’t have a desktop or Ableton but I agree that Note is fantastic. One of my favorite quick jam apps.

  • PaulieworldPaulieworld
    edited December 2023

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:
    So one big positive of hardware is how easy it can be to just zone out and jam for hours. Or tweak patches endlessly on a modular rack. With gear like the Volcas, Bastl, POs all have the same sync standard for easily working together, or cv connections with semi-modular synths, etc, endless groovebox options, it’s so easy to simply just…jam out.

    On iOS - and ITB in general - it’s usually more focused on the DAW workflow but with apps like Drambo, BAM, iElectribe, (and AUM of course), it’s still totally possible to jam out but you have to be more intentional about it where as with hardware you just turn it on and get going.

    So it got me wondering, for those of you who like to create and play live on iOS, what is your go to workflow and apps for just jamming out? MiRack? Drambo?

    I don't tend to make much use of templates but that seems the obvious way to go: set up an AUM session, for example, that has everything you need ready to go. A few instruments, a few fx you particularly like on individual channels / master bus, a keyboard / piano roll / clip launcher etc you like, all pre-routed intelligently so there is minimal friction between opening the session and starting to make music.

    The main advantage in hardware in this context seems to be that lots of decisions are made for you, presumably by ppl who have thought pretty deeply about the choices they made when designing the gear, people who have taste, knowledge, good ears etc. With any template in AUM or a similar host it might be hard to have the discipline to stay focused on the music rather than deciding to keep adding or changing things. Modular could have the same problems, but maybe the friction of having to pull out a piece of gear and physically connect it to everything is sometimes too much so ppl decide not to bother. Or not, in which case they can be just as unproductive as the average ipad noodler, myself included, haha.

    That’s a good point regarding the choices already being made for you. I think a lot of us with tons of apps probably suffer from choice paralysis. I know I do at times. Which is part of why I’d like to have a small hardware setup again for those days I want 0 distractions and to get right into it.

    I definitely do need to start using AUM templates more though. Maybe it’s my ND brain but spending a couple hours making various templates sounds kinda fun 😂

    I also need to. I'm getting waaaay tired of new apps and that kind of options paralysis, man. At a certain point, too many apps just becomes really really counterproductive, for me anyway. I checked AUBE yesterday. Have something like 250 AUv3 synths now on my device. Admittedly a lot of those are things like those SWAM apps that really could all have been contained inside one single app. Still, how is it possible that someone can learn to use, master, and engage enjoyably with so many different instruments. Pursuing novelty has its joys, don't get me wrong, but it has its drawbacks too. So yes, I feel you, brother!

    Exactly. I think I’ve got double your numbers 😂 granted that’s from over years and years of buying. But when you’re only using less than 1/10th of them it kinda makes you think.

    I do love the experience of buying a new app and messing around with it and figuring out how it works, but you have to wonder at some point if it’s worth sacrificing your inspiration and ability to properly make music lol

    Which is why I’m being a lot pickier lately with what I buy. I had a backlog of older AUs i missed that I wanted to buy but i deleted that note from my iPad a few weeks ago and have only bought a couple new releases and a couple Black Friday sales. And going forward I’ll probably only buy apps I genuinely need or feel like i have to have. For example: i LOVE granular synthesis and enjoy Paul’s apps a lot but i may end up passing on it because I simply don’t need it. I probably have over half a dozen granular apps already and that’s not counting effects.

    I think templates will help though. And I’ve been setting personal limits as well. Like “only use 3 synths for this track” or “one track with only one synth” etc and that’s been a big help. Same for using apps like Koala, Dawnbeat, and BAM in standalone.

    Yes, I agree with everything you said here. You really have more than 500 synth AUv3s (according to AUBE's classification system)? Are you sure 😂? I don't think there can even be that many. The number I gave is only for synths, not the total number of AUv3s, which for me is
    800-something. If I remember, the total number of AUv3s in existence is 1000-something. So 800+ is ridiculous already, but yes, some people have even more. To get a grasp of how mad it all is, you only have to think how much space they would all take up if they were hardware, and how crazy/pitifully addicted most sane people would think you must be if they saw your house/studio.

    Then again...

    ...our friend @HotStrange could be a rich producer if he had a hardware setup like that. :mrgreen:

    OMG... Is that a MemoryMoog left center? I haven't seen one of those in almost 30 years. Is it for sale, or is this an AI?

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @Paulieworld said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:
    So one big positive of hardware is how easy it can be to just zone out and jam for hours. Or tweak patches endlessly on a modular rack. With gear like the Volcas, Bastl, POs all have the same sync standard for easily working together, or cv connections with semi-modular synths, etc, endless groovebox options, it’s so easy to simply just…jam out.

    On iOS - and ITB in general - it’s usually more focused on the DAW workflow but with apps like Drambo, BAM, iElectribe, (and AUM of course), it’s still totally possible to jam out but you have to be more intentional about it where as with hardware you just turn it on and get going.

    So it got me wondering, for those of you who like to create and play live on iOS, what is your go to workflow and apps for just jamming out? MiRack? Drambo?

    I don't tend to make much use of templates but that seems the obvious way to go: set up an AUM session, for example, that has everything you need ready to go. A few instruments, a few fx you particularly like on individual channels / master bus, a keyboard / piano roll / clip launcher etc you like, all pre-routed intelligently so there is minimal friction between opening the session and starting to make music.

    The main advantage in hardware in this context seems to be that lots of decisions are made for you, presumably by ppl who have thought pretty deeply about the choices they made when designing the gear, people who have taste, knowledge, good ears etc. With any template in AUM or a similar host it might be hard to have the discipline to stay focused on the music rather than deciding to keep adding or changing things. Modular could have the same problems, but maybe the friction of having to pull out a piece of gear and physically connect it to everything is sometimes too much so ppl decide not to bother. Or not, in which case they can be just as unproductive as the average ipad noodler, myself included, haha.

    That’s a good point regarding the choices already being made for you. I think a lot of us with tons of apps probably suffer from choice paralysis. I know I do at times. Which is part of why I’d like to have a small hardware setup again for those days I want 0 distractions and to get right into it.

    I definitely do need to start using AUM templates more though. Maybe it’s my ND brain but spending a couple hours making various templates sounds kinda fun 😂

    I also need to. I'm getting waaaay tired of new apps and that kind of options paralysis, man. At a certain point, too many apps just becomes really really counterproductive, for me anyway. I checked AUBE yesterday. Have something like 250 AUv3 synths now on my device. Admittedly a lot of those are things like those SWAM apps that really could all have been contained inside one single app. Still, how is it possible that someone can learn to use, master, and engage enjoyably with so many different instruments. Pursuing novelty has its joys, don't get me wrong, but it has its drawbacks too. So yes, I feel you, brother!

    Exactly. I think I’ve got double your numbers 😂 granted that’s from over years and years of buying. But when you’re only using less than 1/10th of them it kinda makes you think.

    I do love the experience of buying a new app and messing around with it and figuring out how it works, but you have to wonder at some point if it’s worth sacrificing your inspiration and ability to properly make music lol

    Which is why I’m being a lot pickier lately with what I buy. I had a backlog of older AUs i missed that I wanted to buy but i deleted that note from my iPad a few weeks ago and have only bought a couple new releases and a couple Black Friday sales. And going forward I’ll probably only buy apps I genuinely need or feel like i have to have. For example: i LOVE granular synthesis and enjoy Paul’s apps a lot but i may end up passing on it because I simply don’t need it. I probably have over half a dozen granular apps already and that’s not counting effects.

    I think templates will help though. And I’ve been setting personal limits as well. Like “only use 3 synths for this track” or “one track with only one synth” etc and that’s been a big help. Same for using apps like Koala, Dawnbeat, and BAM in standalone.

    Yes, I agree with everything you said here. You really have more than 500 synth AUv3s (according to AUBE's classification system)? Are you sure 😂? I don't think there can even be that many. The number I gave is only for synths, not the total number of AUv3s, which for me is
    800-something. If I remember, the total number of AUv3s in existence is 1000-something. So 800+ is ridiculous already, but yes, some people have even more. To get a grasp of how mad it all is, you only have to think how much space they would all take up if they were hardware, and how crazy/pitifully addicted most sane people would think you must be if they saw your house/studio.

    Then again...

    ...our friend @HotStrange could be a rich producer if he had a hardware setup like that. :mrgreen:

    OMG... Is that a MemoryMoog top left center? I haven't seen one of those in almost 30 years. Is it for sale, or is this an AI?

    It definitely looks like an AI pic, but nope. This is literally BT's studio. Not BTS but rather Brian Transeau, lol.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Paulieworld said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:
    So one big positive of hardware is how easy it can be to just zone out and jam for hours. Or tweak patches endlessly on a modular rack. With gear like the Volcas, Bastl, POs all have the same sync standard for easily working together, or cv connections with semi-modular synths, etc, endless groovebox options, it’s so easy to simply just…jam out.

    On iOS - and ITB in general - it’s usually more focused on the DAW workflow but with apps like Drambo, BAM, iElectribe, (and AUM of course), it’s still totally possible to jam out but you have to be more intentional about it where as with hardware you just turn it on and get going.

    So it got me wondering, for those of you who like to create and play live on iOS, what is your go to workflow and apps for just jamming out? MiRack? Drambo?

    I don't tend to make much use of templates but that seems the obvious way to go: set up an AUM session, for example, that has everything you need ready to go. A few instruments, a few fx you particularly like on individual channels / master bus, a keyboard / piano roll / clip launcher etc you like, all pre-routed intelligently so there is minimal friction between opening the session and starting to make music.

    The main advantage in hardware in this context seems to be that lots of decisions are made for you, presumably by ppl who have thought pretty deeply about the choices they made when designing the gear, people who have taste, knowledge, good ears etc. With any template in AUM or a similar host it might be hard to have the discipline to stay focused on the music rather than deciding to keep adding or changing things. Modular could have the same problems, but maybe the friction of having to pull out a piece of gear and physically connect it to everything is sometimes too much so ppl decide not to bother. Or not, in which case they can be just as unproductive as the average ipad noodler, myself included, haha.

    That’s a good point regarding the choices already being made for you. I think a lot of us with tons of apps probably suffer from choice paralysis. I know I do at times. Which is part of why I’d like to have a small hardware setup again for those days I want 0 distractions and to get right into it.

    I definitely do need to start using AUM templates more though. Maybe it’s my ND brain but spending a couple hours making various templates sounds kinda fun 😂

    I also need to. I'm getting waaaay tired of new apps and that kind of options paralysis, man. At a certain point, too many apps just becomes really really counterproductive, for me anyway. I checked AUBE yesterday. Have something like 250 AUv3 synths now on my device. Admittedly a lot of those are things like those SWAM apps that really could all have been contained inside one single app. Still, how is it possible that someone can learn to use, master, and engage enjoyably with so many different instruments. Pursuing novelty has its joys, don't get me wrong, but it has its drawbacks too. So yes, I feel you, brother!

    Exactly. I think I’ve got double your numbers 😂 granted that’s from over years and years of buying. But when you’re only using less than 1/10th of them it kinda makes you think.

    I do love the experience of buying a new app and messing around with it and figuring out how it works, but you have to wonder at some point if it’s worth sacrificing your inspiration and ability to properly make music lol

    Which is why I’m being a lot pickier lately with what I buy. I had a backlog of older AUs i missed that I wanted to buy but i deleted that note from my iPad a few weeks ago and have only bought a couple new releases and a couple Black Friday sales. And going forward I’ll probably only buy apps I genuinely need or feel like i have to have. For example: i LOVE granular synthesis and enjoy Paul’s apps a lot but i may end up passing on it because I simply don’t need it. I probably have over half a dozen granular apps already and that’s not counting effects.

    I think templates will help though. And I’ve been setting personal limits as well. Like “only use 3 synths for this track” or “one track with only one synth” etc and that’s been a big help. Same for using apps like Koala, Dawnbeat, and BAM in standalone.

    Yes, I agree with everything you said here. You really have more than 500 synth AUv3s (according to AUBE's classification system)? Are you sure 😂? I don't think there can even be that many. The number I gave is only for synths, not the total number of AUv3s, which for me is
    800-something. If I remember, the total number of AUv3s in existence is 1000-something. So 800+ is ridiculous already, but yes, some people have even more. To get a grasp of how mad it all is, you only have to think how much space they would all take up if they were hardware, and how crazy/pitifully addicted most sane people would think you must be if they saw your house/studio.

    Then again...

    ...our friend @HotStrange could be a rich producer if he had a hardware setup like that. :mrgreen:

    OMG... Is that a MemoryMoog left center? I haven't seen one of those in almost 30 years. Is it for sale, or is this an AI?

    It’s definitely real but almost certainly not for sale 😂 lots of good gear in this pic. As I said earlier though, I’d love to spend a day in there but couldn’t imagine the pain of being responsible for the upkeep and management of all this.

  • animalelderanimalelder

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    It definitely looks like an AI pic, but nope. This is literally BT's studio. Not BTS but rather Brian Transeau, lol.

    That dude has been around forever and is quite talented. But it seems so convoluted to have a massive room and deal with routing and remembering patches.

  • reezyglereezygle

    @animalelder said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    It definitely looks like an AI pic, but nope. This is literally BT's studio. Not BTS but rather Brian Transeau, lol.

    That dude has been around forever and is quite talented. But it seems so convoluted to have a massive room and deal with routing and remembering patches.

    He must be using Google maps for that.

  • animalelderanimalelder

    Hahahaha he seems more like a Waze guy to me @reezygle but that’s just intuition talking lol

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @reezygle said:

    @animalelder said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    It definitely looks like an AI pic, but nope. This is literally BT's studio. Not BTS but rather Brian Transeau, lol.

    That dude has been around forever and is quite talented. But it seems so convoluted to have a massive room and deal with routing and remembering patches.

    He must be using Google maps for that.

    😂 Or Apple maps.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @HotStrange said:

    @Paulieworld said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:
    So one big positive of hardware is how easy it can be to just zone out and jam for hours. Or tweak patches endlessly on a modular rack. With gear like the Volcas, Bastl, POs all have the same sync standard for easily working together, or cv connections with semi-modular synths, etc, endless groovebox options, it’s so easy to simply just…jam out.

    On iOS - and ITB in general - it’s usually more focused on the DAW workflow but with apps like Drambo, BAM, iElectribe, (and AUM of course), it’s still totally possible to jam out but you have to be more intentional about it where as with hardware you just turn it on and get going.

    So it got me wondering, for those of you who like to create and play live on iOS, what is your go to workflow and apps for just jamming out? MiRack? Drambo?

    I don't tend to make much use of templates but that seems the obvious way to go: set up an AUM session, for example, that has everything you need ready to go. A few instruments, a few fx you particularly like on individual channels / master bus, a keyboard / piano roll / clip launcher etc you like, all pre-routed intelligently so there is minimal friction between opening the session and starting to make music.

    The main advantage in hardware in this context seems to be that lots of decisions are made for you, presumably by ppl who have thought pretty deeply about the choices they made when designing the gear, people who have taste, knowledge, good ears etc. With any template in AUM or a similar host it might be hard to have the discipline to stay focused on the music rather than deciding to keep adding or changing things. Modular could have the same problems, but maybe the friction of having to pull out a piece of gear and physically connect it to everything is sometimes too much so ppl decide not to bother. Or not, in which case they can be just as unproductive as the average ipad noodler, myself included, haha.

    That’s a good point regarding the choices already being made for you. I think a lot of us with tons of apps probably suffer from choice paralysis. I know I do at times. Which is part of why I’d like to have a small hardware setup again for those days I want 0 distractions and to get right into it.

    I definitely do need to start using AUM templates more though. Maybe it’s my ND brain but spending a couple hours making various templates sounds kinda fun 😂

    I also need to. I'm getting waaaay tired of new apps and that kind of options paralysis, man. At a certain point, too many apps just becomes really really counterproductive, for me anyway. I checked AUBE yesterday. Have something like 250 AUv3 synths now on my device. Admittedly a lot of those are things like those SWAM apps that really could all have been contained inside one single app. Still, how is it possible that someone can learn to use, master, and engage enjoyably with so many different instruments. Pursuing novelty has its joys, don't get me wrong, but it has its drawbacks too. So yes, I feel you, brother!

    Exactly. I think I’ve got double your numbers 😂 granted that’s from over years and years of buying. But when you’re only using less than 1/10th of them it kinda makes you think.

    I do love the experience of buying a new app and messing around with it and figuring out how it works, but you have to wonder at some point if it’s worth sacrificing your inspiration and ability to properly make music lol

    Which is why I’m being a lot pickier lately with what I buy. I had a backlog of older AUs i missed that I wanted to buy but i deleted that note from my iPad a few weeks ago and have only bought a couple new releases and a couple Black Friday sales. And going forward I’ll probably only buy apps I genuinely need or feel like i have to have. For example: i LOVE granular synthesis and enjoy Paul’s apps a lot but i may end up passing on it because I simply don’t need it. I probably have over half a dozen granular apps already and that’s not counting effects.

    I think templates will help though. And I’ve been setting personal limits as well. Like “only use 3 synths for this track” or “one track with only one synth” etc and that’s been a big help. Same for using apps like Koala, Dawnbeat, and BAM in standalone.

    Yes, I agree with everything you said here. You really have more than 500 synth AUv3s (according to AUBE's classification system)? Are you sure 😂? I don't think there can even be that many. The number I gave is only for synths, not the total number of AUv3s, which for me is
    800-something. If I remember, the total number of AUv3s in existence is 1000-something. So 800+ is ridiculous already, but yes, some people have even more. To get a grasp of how mad it all is, you only have to think how much space they would all take up if they were hardware, and how crazy/pitifully addicted most sane people would think you must be if they saw your house/studio.

    Then again...

    ...our friend @HotStrange could be a rich producer if he had a hardware setup like that. :mrgreen:

    OMG... Is that a MemoryMoog left center? I haven't seen one of those in almost 30 years. Is it for sale, or is this an AI?

    It’s definitely real but almost certainly not for sale 😂 lots of good gear in this pic. As I said earlier though, I’d love to spend a day in there but couldn’t imagine the pain of being responsible for the upkeep and management of all this.

    Same here mate. Lol. That's why I have AUv3 apps instead. 😂

  • RanDoM_rRayRanDoM_rRay

    I don't have AUBE, (i think is FAC's app organizers), but curious for the sake of sometimes not knowing where to start, Does it have a random generator? Or even Audiobus. Like the way it has those 3 slots - Input - Effect - Output... if there was a RDM Button and the 3 things spin like a slot machine, and then you use those 3 to jam. A random jam generator if you will. Copyright! Or is there some site/app i could type in the 6000 music apps i have and it gives me a random challenge using those names?

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Paulieworld said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:
    So one big positive of hardware is how easy it can be to just zone out and jam for hours. Or tweak patches endlessly on a modular rack. With gear like the Volcas, Bastl, POs all have the same sync standard for easily working together, or cv connections with semi-modular synths, etc, endless groovebox options, it’s so easy to simply just…jam out.

    On iOS - and ITB in general - it’s usually more focused on the DAW workflow but with apps like Drambo, BAM, iElectribe, (and AUM of course), it’s still totally possible to jam out but you have to be more intentional about it where as with hardware you just turn it on and get going.

    So it got me wondering, for those of you who like to create and play live on iOS, what is your go to workflow and apps for just jamming out? MiRack? Drambo?

    I don't tend to make much use of templates but that seems the obvious way to go: set up an AUM session, for example, that has everything you need ready to go. A few instruments, a few fx you particularly like on individual channels / master bus, a keyboard / piano roll / clip launcher etc you like, all pre-routed intelligently so there is minimal friction between opening the session and starting to make music.

    The main advantage in hardware in this context seems to be that lots of decisions are made for you, presumably by ppl who have thought pretty deeply about the choices they made when designing the gear, people who have taste, knowledge, good ears etc. With any template in AUM or a similar host it might be hard to have the discipline to stay focused on the music rather than deciding to keep adding or changing things. Modular could have the same problems, but maybe the friction of having to pull out a piece of gear and physically connect it to everything is sometimes too much so ppl decide not to bother. Or not, in which case they can be just as unproductive as the average ipad noodler, myself included, haha.

    That’s a good point regarding the choices already being made for you. I think a lot of us with tons of apps probably suffer from choice paralysis. I know I do at times. Which is part of why I’d like to have a small hardware setup again for those days I want 0 distractions and to get right into it.

    I definitely do need to start using AUM templates more though. Maybe it’s my ND brain but spending a couple hours making various templates sounds kinda fun 😂

    I also need to. I'm getting waaaay tired of new apps and that kind of options paralysis, man. At a certain point, too many apps just becomes really really counterproductive, for me anyway. I checked AUBE yesterday. Have something like 250 AUv3 synths now on my device. Admittedly a lot of those are things like those SWAM apps that really could all have been contained inside one single app. Still, how is it possible that someone can learn to use, master, and engage enjoyably with so many different instruments. Pursuing novelty has its joys, don't get me wrong, but it has its drawbacks too. So yes, I feel you, brother!

    Exactly. I think I’ve got double your numbers 😂 granted that’s from over years and years of buying. But when you’re only using less than 1/10th of them it kinda makes you think.

    I do love the experience of buying a new app and messing around with it and figuring out how it works, but you have to wonder at some point if it’s worth sacrificing your inspiration and ability to properly make music lol

    Which is why I’m being a lot pickier lately with what I buy. I had a backlog of older AUs i missed that I wanted to buy but i deleted that note from my iPad a few weeks ago and have only bought a couple new releases and a couple Black Friday sales. And going forward I’ll probably only buy apps I genuinely need or feel like i have to have. For example: i LOVE granular synthesis and enjoy Paul’s apps a lot but i may end up passing on it because I simply don’t need it. I probably have over half a dozen granular apps already and that’s not counting effects.

    I think templates will help though. And I’ve been setting personal limits as well. Like “only use 3 synths for this track” or “one track with only one synth” etc and that’s been a big help. Same for using apps like Koala, Dawnbeat, and BAM in standalone.

    Yes, I agree with everything you said here. You really have more than 500 synth AUv3s (according to AUBE's classification system)? Are you sure 😂? I don't think there can even be that many. The number I gave is only for synths, not the total number of AUv3s, which for me is
    800-something. If I remember, the total number of AUv3s in existence is 1000-something. So 800+ is ridiculous already, but yes, some people have even more. To get a grasp of how mad it all is, you only have to think how much space they would all take up if they were hardware, and how crazy/pitifully addicted most sane people would think you must be if they saw your house/studio.

    Then again...

    ...our friend @HotStrange could be a rich producer if he had a hardware setup like that. :mrgreen:

    OMG... Is that a MemoryMoog left center? I haven't seen one of those in almost 30 years. Is it for sale, or is this an AI?

    It’s definitely real but almost certainly not for sale 😂 lots of good gear in this pic. As I said earlier though, I’d love to spend a day in there but couldn’t imagine the pain of being responsible for the upkeep and management of all this.

    Same here mate. Lol. That's why I have AUv3 apps instead. 😂

    Ha! Same here. I have every conceivable type of synth on my iPad already. Now I just need to combine with the 404 🤩

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @RanDoM_rRay said:
    I don't have AUBE, (i think is FAC's app organizers), but curious for the sake of sometimes not knowing where to start, Does it have a random generator? Or even Audiobus. Like the way it has those 3 slots - Input - Effect - Output... if there was a RDM Button and the 3 things spin like a slot machine, and then you use those 3 to jam. A random jam generator if you will. Copyright! Or is there some site/app i could type in the 6000 music apps i have and it gives me a random challenge using those names?

    I don’t think it does but Cem Olcay has an app that might work for you. It’s called Patch Roulette I think.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

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    @Paulieworld said:

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    @Gavinski said:

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    @HotStrange said:
    So one big positive of hardware is how easy it can be to just zone out and jam for hours. Or tweak patches endlessly on a modular rack. With gear like the Volcas, Bastl, POs all have the same sync standard for easily working together, or cv connections with semi-modular synths, etc, endless groovebox options, it’s so easy to simply just…jam out.

    On iOS - and ITB in general - it’s usually more focused on the DAW workflow but with apps like Drambo, BAM, iElectribe, (and AUM of course), it’s still totally possible to jam out but you have to be more intentional about it where as with hardware you just turn it on and get going.

    So it got me wondering, for those of you who like to create and play live on iOS, what is your go to workflow and apps for just jamming out? MiRack? Drambo?

    I don't tend to make much use of templates but that seems the obvious way to go: set up an AUM session, for example, that has everything you need ready to go. A few instruments, a few fx you particularly like on individual channels / master bus, a keyboard / piano roll / clip launcher etc you like, all pre-routed intelligently so there is minimal friction between opening the session and starting to make music.

    The main advantage in hardware in this context seems to be that lots of decisions are made for you, presumably by ppl who have thought pretty deeply about the choices they made when designing the gear, people who have taste, knowledge, good ears etc. With any template in AUM or a similar host it might be hard to have the discipline to stay focused on the music rather than deciding to keep adding or changing things. Modular could have the same problems, but maybe the friction of having to pull out a piece of gear and physically connect it to everything is sometimes too much so ppl decide not to bother. Or not, in which case they can be just as unproductive as the average ipad noodler, myself included, haha.

    That’s a good point regarding the choices already being made for you. I think a lot of us with tons of apps probably suffer from choice paralysis. I know I do at times. Which is part of why I’d like to have a small hardware setup again for those days I want 0 distractions and to get right into it.

    I definitely do need to start using AUM templates more though. Maybe it’s my ND brain but spending a couple hours making various templates sounds kinda fun 😂

    I also need to. I'm getting waaaay tired of new apps and that kind of options paralysis, man. At a certain point, too many apps just becomes really really counterproductive, for me anyway. I checked AUBE yesterday. Have something like 250 AUv3 synths now on my device. Admittedly a lot of those are things like those SWAM apps that really could all have been contained inside one single app. Still, how is it possible that someone can learn to use, master, and engage enjoyably with so many different instruments. Pursuing novelty has its joys, don't get me wrong, but it has its drawbacks too. So yes, I feel you, brother!

    Exactly. I think I’ve got double your numbers 😂 granted that’s from over years and years of buying. But when you’re only using less than 1/10th of them it kinda makes you think.

    I do love the experience of buying a new app and messing around with it and figuring out how it works, but you have to wonder at some point if it’s worth sacrificing your inspiration and ability to properly make music lol

    Which is why I’m being a lot pickier lately with what I buy. I had a backlog of older AUs i missed that I wanted to buy but i deleted that note from my iPad a few weeks ago and have only bought a couple new releases and a couple Black Friday sales. And going forward I’ll probably only buy apps I genuinely need or feel like i have to have. For example: i LOVE granular synthesis and enjoy Paul’s apps a lot but i may end up passing on it because I simply don’t need it. I probably have over half a dozen granular apps already and that’s not counting effects.

    I think templates will help though. And I’ve been setting personal limits as well. Like “only use 3 synths for this track” or “one track with only one synth” etc and that’s been a big help. Same for using apps like Koala, Dawnbeat, and BAM in standalone.

    Yes, I agree with everything you said here. You really have more than 500 synth AUv3s (according to AUBE's classification system)? Are you sure 😂? I don't think there can even be that many. The number I gave is only for synths, not the total number of AUv3s, which for me is
    800-something. If I remember, the total number of AUv3s in existence is 1000-something. So 800+ is ridiculous already, but yes, some people have even more. To get a grasp of how mad it all is, you only have to think how much space they would all take up if they were hardware, and how crazy/pitifully addicted most sane people would think you must be if they saw your house/studio.

    Then again...

    ...our friend @HotStrange could be a rich producer if he had a hardware setup like that. :mrgreen:

    OMG... Is that a MemoryMoog left center? I haven't seen one of those in almost 30 years. Is it for sale, or is this an AI?

    It’s definitely real but almost certainly not for sale 😂 lots of good gear in this pic. As I said earlier though, I’d love to spend a day in there but couldn’t imagine the pain of being responsible for the upkeep and management of all this.

    Same here mate. Lol. That's why I have AUv3 apps instead. 😂

    Ha! Same here. I have every conceivable type of synth on my iPad already. Now I just need to combine with the 404 🤩

    Agreed. 👍

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @RanDoM_rRay said:
    I don't have AUBE, (i think is FAC's app organizers), but curious for the sake of sometimes not knowing where to start, Does it have a random generator? Or even Audiobus. Like the way it has those 3 slots - Input - Effect - Output... if there was a RDM Button and the 3 things spin like a slot machine, and then you use those 3 to jam. A random jam generator if you will. Copyright! Or is there some site/app i could type in the 6000 music apps i have and it gives me a random challenge using those names?

    AUBE can pick apps at random for you, one app at a time, mind you, but yes it can do it. Pretty sure that soon enough we'll have AI integrations in DAWs and then completely randomising an entire session optionally within certain guidelines, will be just a matter of speaking out the instruction to your AI assistant.

  • chaocratorchaocrator

    i use hybrid approach – iPad with some software + Circuit Tracks that also does MIDI controller job.
    software-wise, i used to use Drambo, but now testing whether BAM is stable enough for that, since BAM + Mela 4 became my to-go combo both on iPad and macOS.

    what i don't like about BAM is that clips are not MIDI assignable yet, otherwise i would add Launchpad Mini as a dedicated clip/scene launcher.

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