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If Apple doesn’t immediately have a competing version of this, then what are they even doing?
This is exactly what Apple needs to offer in GarageBand, Logic Pro or as a standalone + AU plugin for music production. It’s a great way to get people into making music, no matter their skill level.
And being able to whistle or riff on a tune with your voice, then turn it into a convincing instrument is fantastic.
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This is so freaking cool!
I know. And this is just the beginning.
Woah thanks for sharing. As someone who is decidedly NOT a singer, this is really interesting. Something like this within Logic would be close to a game changer.
I agree. And if Apple doesn't buy this company, someone else will.
I imagine GarageBand and Logic will look a lot different in 5 years time.
Maybe they will be called "GarageBand Ai" and Logic Pro Ai"...?
I suspect all DAWs will look quite different in 3-5 years. The ones which successfully automate much of the annoying and repetitive technical aspects of music production will be the winners.
I could live with that as long as there’s the option to do it yourself. Some people enjoy the tedious parts and some who hate it still insist on having control over everything. I think AI replacing it completely would actually lead to less acceptance. But having it as a feature would absolutely be cool. Like the mastering AI has been implemented.
Exactly. More "Mastering"-style automation is what I'm talking about. Tedious tasks which any pro worth their salt will already know, but stuff which might take years for the average artist to learn, but they shouldn't necessarily have to.
True that. I’m no engineer, no doubt. I can do a decent mix but that’s it. So the mastering AI is great for me.
This reminds me of that old app you could tap on a desk and it would generate drum sounds… old brain has smoothed over its name. Someone here will know it.
Sort of in the same arena. That was AAS Objeq: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aas-objeq/id1160030374
I think one thing long overdue for automation is a tool which would help users intuitively carve out space in the mix for their multitrack elements. This entire process could be boiled down to a visual process of interlocking blocks of sound on a timeline. The system could do all of the pro-level compression, EQ’ing and so forth and make the process completely intuitive, while invisibly throwing a ton of behind-the-scenes audio engineering on the tracks.
Heres the one I was thinking of:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/impaktor/id557824278
I had to travel back in time to 2013 when I bought this app.
Or maybe Impaktor by Beepstreet:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/impaktor/id557824278
I’d love to see this one get an update.
I’d buy it if it did. I never got around to getting it and don’t want to buy if it’s mostly abandoned now. Beepstreet doesn’t have a habit of abandoning their apps though luckily. Usually it’s the opposite and they’ll update an app that’s many year old.
It‘s strange... no one noticed the word Subscription on the left side of the screen yet
I haven’t had it installed for a long time as a version upgrade of iOS broke it. It was pretty amazing what you could get out of it if you found the right resonant surface to play on.
Any plans to work on it again @giku_beepstreet , or is it too old to fix now?
There will be competition. Lots and lots of competition.
Would be really cool to see it upgraded. Is it standalone only or does it at least have IAA?
dot lol? I think you’ve just been had. Maybe The Onion put this up.> @michael_m said:
I happened to buy this a couple weeks ago. Doesn’t seem broke to me. iOS 16.7.2 on iPhone SE2.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/limewire-artificial-intelligence-music-generator-1234924461/
Limewire is back and moving to AI music. Coming soon: Napster AI Beatmaker haha
The stuff on their site looks exactly like Midjourney. I bet LimeWire is just buying credits from MJ.
There's going to be tons of competition but it will be interesting to see which model wins - subscription or per query fees. Or something else. For anything computationally expensive, one-off fees are unlikely to cover costs. At the same time, if there are tons of competing AI services, who is going to want or be able to subscribe to all of them?
Many current AI services are prohibitively expensive - $20 a month sub for a limited number of outputs, then extra per use fees when you go over your (often quite small) limits.
Thing is though, it might be hard for companies that don't go down the subscription route to compete with ones that do. I personally would avoid paying annual subs for pretty much any AI service at the moment. Monthly is better, if you need to pay. It seems likely the landscape will be littered with AI companies that go bust due to inability to compete. So if you pay for many annual subs, it's likely there will be some you'll just never use, and others where you'll lose simply because the company goes bust before your annual subscription expires.
I'd imagine most money and most development in AI will be concentrated in the hands of a few, just as social media is currently dominated by only a handful of big names. Small players might build cool things using API from the big boys, and charge one-off fees for access to those - like this recent Open AI 'GPTs' idea. Or maybe there will be things like Apple Arcade for AI.
It's getting harder for me to believe that many companies can succeed by adopting subscription models tho. I can see why they are appealing to devs, but most users hate them, and rightly so. Having a few rolling monthly or annual subs is bearable, having many is not.
Thanks, that’s good to know - I might try it again then.
I really loathe and despise the way drafts are handled here. My comment regarding dot lol, which I accidentally posted when I quoted @michael_m, is one of many drafts that I have right now residing in a state of purgatory on this forum. They are comments which I ultimately decide not to post, but can never, ever for the life of me make go away permanently.
I delete my content, hit the save draft button on a blank box, yet my previous work will all still be there the next time I revisit the thread. I wish Loopy Pro was this good at saving my projects @Michael 😘
But you can bet on my phone dying while five paragraphs into an impassioned response, it’ll all be gone once I return again. 😡
Sorry. I’m really hungry right now.
Yes, it's a pain, for sure. The best tip I saw was to delete what you wrote, then just type something innocuous like a full stop there, then save that as a draft.
THANK YOU. Good to know.
This doesn't make use of the generalized AI, large language model stuff. So while it's "AI", not clear to me why it would demand huge resources, or why it couldn't run on my Macbook Air. So open source alternatives may pop up as things progress. And/or proprietary apps that you download and run on your own computer.
Definitely, good point
@Blipsford_Baubie and @Gavinski , to delete a draft I click on My Drafts… at the top rightish of the main screen. This brings up a list of draft messages. Then click the x that is at the top right of each message. This works for me 😊
I do that too, but if you don’t realize a draft was saved and you then reply to someone, you can get some garbled nonsense. I have done that more than once…