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Can you use your iPad as an effect unit for Logic in Mac?
I have (as we all probably do) a lot of great effects on my iPad that I would love to combine with some of the things I record in Logic Pro on my Mac.
For example, I am recording guitars directly into Logic (Mac), but I'm missing a shimmer reverb (such as any of the ones I have on my iPad).
Is there a way to connect both? Could they be connected as sends, as busses, as inserts? Can this be done for a live setting?
And if so, can anyone explain how?
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Yes, at least via aux bus (there is a chapter in the Logic manual regarding external efx). You need a multi-ch interface to get the dry signal out and the wet back in. When you only need a mono send the simple iRig should be enough to start. Otherwise you also need an audio interface for the iPad. Or alternatively an Audio4c audio interface where you can connect both devices and route audio directly between them.
When you only want to use it as a reverb latency should not be an issue.
Other question: Why don‘t you connect the guitar to the iPad and add the reverb etc. to the signal before going into Logic? Here indeed you have to care about latency.
I have a Zoom U24, I'm currently getting some good sounds from Neural DSP in my Mac, but I am not getting the Reverb I'm looking for.
I'm having trouble figuring it the connections, though. The interface is connected to the Mac via hub, and the ipad connected to a USB-C port of the Mac itself. I think I would need to have both as I/O interfaces, but I can't work out how to do that...
The I connectivity Audio4c or Audio4+ can send and return digital channels between computer and iPad.
Otherwise, you could use two interfaces with SPDIF or ADAT, but it seems complicated. And more expensive.
https://www.iconnectivity.com/audio4c
The older version, the Audio 4+, can be found used sometimes.
https://www.lewitt-audio.com/connect-6
The Lewitt Connect 6 can send and return a stereo channel between devices but I haven’t heard much about it. The Audio4C can do many more channels. The Connect 6 is cheaper.
This... seriously
It gives you 5 stereo paths for send and another 5 stereo returns... or any other combination as long as the sum of mono channels doesn‘t exceed 20.
The signal routing for both Mac and iPad is managed on the interface.
This eases setup and seems to improve latency (at least that‘s how it feels to me).
Exactly! I have the iconnectaudio 4+, it’s awesome for this situation…and it’s a Swiss Army knife in many other ways as well
You know, there are a number of shimmer reverbs you could also just buy and use on the Mac. The TB Reverb 4 by Toneboosters is quite good. If you’re willing to spend a bit more there’s FabFilter’s Reverb for desktop. And BLEASS makes a pretty decent shimmer reverb, called Shimmer.
I have these on iPadOS and macOS (except for the FabFilter reverb, which I don’t have on desktop). And they’re all a little bit different from each other.
I’ll just leave this here… TLDR; with modern, even basic, interfaces using audio is fine!
You can also use the iconnectMidi 2 or 4. I do this with 2 iPads and a Mac. They all pass audio and midi to each other. It does require a bit of routing though to keep things straight.
Yes, I have considered that. Bleass’s shimmer is quite affordable, especially if you compare it with the other solutions being offered, which are in the $300-400. I am indeed trying to manage my expenses a bit these days 😅
That seems like a more affordable option, I would have never guessed they passed audio as well! Is the routing complicated, or just a matter of configuration?
It passes audio over usb. If you wanted to use it as just an FX return you would need to adjust for latency. For basic routings it just shows up as an audio card/midi interface. If you want to get deeper with it you need to get their old software (which can be a bit buggy). The new version of the software for the iconnectivity devices doesn’t let you do nearly as much for routing options.
You also would need to consider the bit rate and sample rate you are working in as the older boxes have some minor limitations on that. I can add more details or screenshots if you need
This is great information, thank you! I’ll have to think about it a bit, but this is enough for now
It‘s not entirely correct, though.
The current version of the routing/config software is called reConfig4Audio by Markus Burri, a free download from the appstore.
(after iConnectivity gave up on it and released the source code, which is a great attitude)
Oh nice. I wasn’t aware that someone picked it. Great of them to open source it. For the most part I don’t have to use it now that I really don’t change my setup but it’s great to know there is an alternative.
I had no idea. The Midi2 does 4 channels and the Midi4 does 8 channels.
Strange they didn’t keep this with their Mio devices. But since I don’t want to use the ADC on the Audio4C, this seems like a good and cheaper idea to try audio pass through. Thanks!
I ordered a Midi2+ for $50 shipped off of Reverb. I’ll report back how it works with audio pass through once it is shipped to me (hopefully sooner than later).
I only wanted the DAC and not the ADC. I’m going to make an aggregate device with my real interface.
I realize Studiomux appears to be abandoned at this point… but, does it still work for this application without needing a hardware interface?