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Are you rational when buying hardware?
If you've ever sold a piece of gear and, later, regretted it, raise your hand.
You buy 4 guitars and then, you want a new piano. You sell 2 guitars, buy a new piano, regret it, sell your new piano to rebuy an other guitar and then, resell it to buy an amp, and then, sold your amp to buy something else and then, regret it....Live and learn I guess.
How do you manage your purchases? Is there time when your force yourself to keep something to avoid regretting it?
Is there time when you say to yourself "ok, now I want to sell X but I know that I will regret it in 6 months"?
Maybe I'm just a control freak, but I try to be rational when I buy thing and I often fail.
"Human, All Too Human".
- Nietzsche
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Unless you're a musician making a living with your music, all musical instrument and equipment purchases are irrational.
I don’t know if ‘rational’ is a good term to use, as buying something for pleasure (as is the case for most of us) is never really going to be result of just logic.
If you mean have I experienced regret after buying hardware, the answer is probably yes in a few cases, but no in the majority of cases.
The only thing I regret selling though is a cherry red ‘74 Les Paul Custom that I sold when I was desperate for the money.
Ya beat me to it. 😂
The music gear I regret getting rid of…
My first guitar that I “traded in” for a better one. And I mostly regret that because I later found out they trashed it. It was a crappy Sears guitar. (Not old enough to be a cool Silvertone or something.) And if I’d known they were going to do that, I would’ve kept it. On the other hand, the guitar I got in exchange has been a boon companion for decades.
My Sunn solid-state amp. I didn’t get rid of it to buy other gear but to make space in the apartment for a girlfriend. (And I hadn’t used it in years.) Although, in retrospect, that may have been an irrational decision. 😄
My first bass. I bought it from a good friend as he was selling off everything before heading off to join the Navy. Years later I loaned it to another friend who ended up pawning it and not paying back the loan in time. I don’t regret loaning, and I have no hard feelings towards my friend. Friends are more important than gear. And I didn’t miss it for years. But more recently I’ve been wishing I still had it.
My irrationality has more to do with thinking I should keep anything that is worth selling. 😄
I sell gear all the time if I'm not using it, in order to fund new gear. There's been a couple times I maybe later regretted it and repurchased something (Octatrack, OP-1, OP-f), but that's usually pretty rare for me. And is usually triggered by a software/firmware update that brings some new functionality that I will find more useful. I'd much rather have something in front of me that I actually want to use, versus something in its box in the closet just in case. I definitely give this process a lot of thought, it's not that much of a flippant choice for me.
The flip side of that is that I'm also very picky when I "think" I want something new that will require me to sell something I currently have. I read the manual from to back for the new piece to make sure I fully understand the workflow, and that there's no gotchas I'm going to regret. I also am pretty strict about having a use case already in mind for whatever new I want to buy. How will it let me do something new? What role will it fill in my studio, and does something else already fill that role? Is this a short term project, or something I'm likely to use repeatedly in the long term?
IE, the KO-133 looked a little interesting to me, especially given the price. But I know that the OP-z and the Octatrack which I already have will likely fill the same role that does, so it's ultimately not adding anything to my studio.
Yes, if only I could remember what I was thinking at the time.
Probably best not to try…
Sure do have 2 regrets in selling gear…the Roland vsynth xt rack, and the Roland vsynth gen1
Back when I sold them there were no mods to perform to speed up the media they load and save from.
I also didn’t have the time to throw away by going down the immense amount of rabbit holes they incur.
I'm not a pro, but the joy of playing music worth a lot to me!
Been through all that, aided and abetted by a condition I happen to have.
Much better nowadays. Generally just buy what’s needed for my projects and goals. Which really isn’t much and won’t be, now.
Exactly. That's the point!
I don’t really care for gear. I’m always on the move and can’t carry much anyway.
Software while being excellent under certain circumstances cannot quite get there yet.
Apple could update or software can be abandoned, hardware is still working usually for a considerably longer timeframe.
iOS software purchases have no resale value, hardware does.
So irrational well I would say it’s certainly more nuanced than that.
I bought MPC X… been collecting dust for 6 months now lol
Anybody want to buy a mint MPC X… lol
I regret selling the DX7 and the DX11 the most. I have most of the DX7 emulations, on ipad and desktop (the Plogue emulation is tremendous), and I’ve a little Yamaha Reface DX, but somehow it’s not the same. The sound is the same, but how you make the sound is also important.
In my world, it is perfectly fine to buy a guitar or any other instrument and display it on the wall as a decoration. Art is life, instruments are tools.
So if you have spare money, and if it will make you happy, do it. You are helping the music industry and music popularization in general. It’s completely rational.
I tend to only buy broken or serious deals.
It’s just as much a hobby as playing for me.
it was a joke
though, I honestly don't think I've made a "rational" guitar purchase in my life. It has always been purely emotional.
Does anyone seriously buy hardware for the purpose of "helping the music industry?" Must have a lot more disposable income than I do! ... And how then does purchasing Behringer equipment, the supposed destroyer of the music industry, score in the Karma department? 🧐
(Now before we get into another one of our lengthy misunderstandings ... don't take me seriously. I'm just having some fun.)
not sure about guitars, pianos and stuff like that.
but when it comes to synths / grooveboxes / drum machines, i study their manuals before purchasing to be sure they are capable of doing what i need, and the way i need.
and yes, if certain piece of gear is not necessary, but fits my requirements and i like it – i'm buying it because saving on dopamine is less sane idea than buying unnecessary piece of gear.
I guess that Neum probably can’t enter his studio because of all those time-retrospective synthesizers, haha. 😂
Speaking of guitar, my “irrational” guitar purchase opened up an entire new page in my life.
Definitely not when it comes to AUv3 plugins. They just go into a black hole whose gravity increases the more it is fed.
As far as real gear, every midi keyboard purchase was rational, at its time. Or so I tell myself. Still, so far I've gotten two that have seen basically zero use, and two others that see semi-regular use. If I had been more rational and less enthused, I probably could have avoided the useless purchases. On the other hand, the ones I do use - they were also more emotional than carefully thought through. In the end, I don't regret it and chalk it up to live and learn.
I am NOT purchasing actual hardware synths though, because the rational side of me knows, that I can get way more done using apps on my iPad or a DAW on my desktop. So I guess the sphere of rationality is there somewhere.
I'm also very picky when I "think" I want something new that will require me to sell something I currently have. I read the manual from to back for the new piece to make sure I fully understand the workflow, and that there's no gotchas I'm going to regret.
This is me. ONE gotcha is enough to ruin everything for me, workflow-wise. I had a studio full of some weird, good and unpopular hardware, but wasn't making anything and constantly looking for that next perfect piece to tie it all together. Sold it all off recently, got me an ipad, some apps and a new nice midi keyboard. Along with monitors, a sound card and a mic that's really all I need. My recordings don't fall because of the 2-5 % I would have gained in fidelity by still owning physical boxes. If I had 100K+ EUR I would build a physical studio again, for anything less its meaningless to go 'outside the box' unless you want to sound like every other hobby musician that swallowed that juicy youtube-bait. I swear, the difference in setups vary more between ipad users sonically than your typical r/synthesizer or gearspace-noobs.
I also have a disdain for anything popular, being soo contrarian. So getting the same stuff as anybody else doesn't make sense when you don't want to sound the same. So bored of those Volca/Boutique/Tiny-whatever setups. It's irrational seeing "mobility" being pushed as a pro for something you do when stationary all the time, while housing expenses makes people have to re-buy smaller versions of their dads synths because of no studio room.
With ipad purchases become a different story because of the 14 day right to return in the EU. I try to keep my number of apps under 50, but if something apparently new and cool comes about I can just demo and return within two weeks before deciding, very smooth approach and not too many apps that I've bought and never used.
I’m not a dentist, should I sell my toothbrush?
😂
I have a lot of small devices for guitar and recording, like a Roland and Zoom 8 track recorder, Korg mini drum computer, audio interfaces, lots of pedals, a multi-fx pedal, Mooer Radar, some tube amps, speaker cabinets, etc.
I think I am better off when I just own one good (but pricey) device like a Kemper or an Axe-FX instead of all this stuff. One day I will make the switch.
im at the stage where i sold all the hardware i dont use. the stuff left over probably stays forever with me.
as for new gear, depending on price and age but i tend to buy secondhand and if it doesn't gel, I try to sell for the same price. Im not a fan of buying gear and just let it collect dust from not being used.
What blows my mind is how often people buy and sell gear. Here I am with my iPhone and iPad and now OP-1 Field, not planning to sell any of those. 😂
Two of those devices will become slow and possibly of less usage given time because of updates and eventually no further updates, doesn’t that alter your perspective somewhat.
Hehe, yep. Apple's infamous "planned obscolescence". Whereas I suspect the OP-1 Field will constantly receive future updates (firmware and the like) for at least a good solid 10 more years. The difference between Apple and Teenage Engineering. Sadly the only way I can get unlimited mastering is through Logic Pro on iPad. Seems like the only reliable app on Apple that won't break will be Logic Pro on iPad, lol.