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Multiple outputs from audio interface

Dear AudioBus community,
I have an Audient iD14 with 4 outputs (1/2 and 3/4 + 5/6 for headphones). I'm trying to route 2 instances of Koala Sampler within AUM to an external hardware DJ mixer. So I'd have Koala Sampler loaded into Channel 1 with output 1/2 from my soundcard and another Koala Sampler loaded into Channel 2 with output 3/4 from my soundcard. Then I'd connect the 1/2 line out from Audient to external DJ mixer channel 1 line in and the 3/4 line out from Audient to external DJ mixer channel 2 line in.
The problem is that AUM only recognize Audient's 1/2 output, when I try to route the AUM channel output to Audient's 3/4 output nothing comes out. That's the same with Audiobus. Also djay app is not working, when I route Plate 1 to output 1/2 it works, but when I route Plate 2 to output 3/4 it doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?
Thank you so much in advance.

Comments

  • Hi. Are you on iPadOS 17? There have been some reports of class-compliant audio interfaces, that used to work properly, suddenly dropping features. You may be experiencing this discrepancy. If so, you may just have to complain to Apple (https://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad/) and wait for a fix.

  • @uncledave said:
    Hi. Are you on iPadOS 17? There have been some reports of class-compliant audio interfaces, that used to work properly, suddenly dropping features. You may be experiencing this discrepancy. If so, you may just have to complain to Apple (https://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad/) and wait for a fix.

    Yes, I'm on iPad Pro M2 with iPadOS 17.2. Do you think that's the problem? I wanna make sure I'm not doing anything wrong with routing.

  • Afaik the ID14‘s outputs 3/4 are just duplicates of 1/2, but may be routed differently for cue mixes in Audient‘s control panel software.
    Which is not available for IOS...
    If you configure the ID14 by a Mac/PC, it will loose that setting when powered off, it’s not stored onboard.
    The first ID interface to store settings internally is the ID44.

  • @Telefunky said:
    Afaik the ID14‘s outputs 3/4 are just duplicates of 1/2, but may be routed differently for cue mixes in Audient‘s control panel software.
    Which is not available for IOS...
    If you configure the ID14 by a Mac/PC, it will loose that setting when powered off, it’s not stored onboard.
    The first ID interface to store settings internally is the ID44.

    Oh, that's interesting! Thank you. Do you know of any iOS audio interface with 4 outputs? I was also thinking about Zoom U-24.

  • I also was thinking about buying Audient EVO 8, but if it cannot store settings onboard just as the iD14, i'll avoid getting it, as I would not be able to use 4 outputs.

  • edited December 2023

    The main feature of Audient ID interfaces are their mic preamps, which are outstanding quality. These preamps are identical in all ID interfaces (and udient‘s 5-fig console).
    I have an ID22 and compared them to Telefunken V676a units (about $1k per channel) and the difference was way less than the price suggests.
    They are somewhat between vintage and modern (in a good way) and personally I‘d prefer them over RME and UAD (modern, precise, no character whatsoever).

    But if you‘re not into mic pres, there‘s few need to consider an ID interface. ;)
    For line signals any 4 channel type will do, in particular with modern gear like Volcas, MPCs or modular setups.

  • @Telefunky said:
    The main feature of Audient ID interfaces are their mic preamps, which are outstanding quality. These preamps are identical in all ID interfaces (and udient‘s 5-fig console).
    I have an ID22 and compared them to Telefunken V676a units (about $1k per channel) and the difference was way less than the price suggests.
    They are somewhat between vintage and modern (in a good way) and personally I‘d prefer them over RME and UAD (modern, precise, no character whatsoever).

    But if you‘re not into mic pres, there‘s few need to consider an ID interface. ;)
    For line signals any 4 channel type will do, in particular with modern gear like Volcas, MPCs or modular setups.

    Thank you so much! I'm not into mic pres, especially for my iPad set which I only use for live performance. I'm just searching for an audio interface with 4 separate outputs that I can route and assign via AUM/Audiobus. So that I can have, for example, a virtual synth loaded into AUM which goes to output 1/2 from my external soundcard; and a sampler loaded into another channel strip into AUM which goes to output 3/4 from an external soundcard. 1/2 output from soundcard goes into external DJ mixer channel 1 and 3/4 output from soundcard goes into external DJ mixer channel 2. Do you think any audio interface from Behringer, Zoom, Focusrite (expect from Audient) would do the job?

  • edited December 2023

    Yes, any will do... even the Bs.
    (but I‘d never purchase anything related to MusicGroup) >:) :mrgreen:

  • @marcoauti2000 said:

    @Telefunky said:
    Afaik the ID14‘s outputs 3/4 are just duplicates of 1/2, but may be routed differently for cue mixes in Audient‘s control panel software.
    Which is not available for IOS...
    If you configure the ID14 by a Mac/PC, it will loose that setting when powered off, it’s not stored onboard.
    The first ID interface to store settings internally is the ID44.

    Oh, that's interesting! Thank you. Do you know of any iOS audio interface with 4 outputs? I was also thinking about Zoom U-24.

    The U-24 has four outputs. Any truly class compliant multi-output interface that makes all their outputs available in class-compliant mode will.

  • I’ve got a Zoom U-24 and Arturia Minifuse 2. When connected I see all the outputs of the device. What I do know is that with the Minifuse I first had to do something, I believe just connect it to a desktop computer first.

  • edited December 2023

    Thank you so much for your advices!!! Do you think an Esi Gigaport Ex would work too with iOS? I really don't need any inputs, just outputs to route to external gear. https://www.thomann.de/it/esi_gigaport_ex.htm?glp=1&gad_source=1

  • I use a MOTU M4 interface. In AUM, a channel can be routed to any of the 4 outputs on the M4 or to a stereo pair 1+2 or 3+4.

    BTW, the M4 has clean preamps, low latency, a really good headphone amp, and the best metering I’ve seen anywhere near its price point. Worth checking out if you’re considering a new interface.

  • @Schmotown said:
    I use a MOTU M4 interface. In AUM, a channel can be routed to any of the 4 outputs on the M4 or to a stereo pair 1+2 or 3+4.

    BTW, the M4 has clean preamps, low latency, a really good headphone amp, and the best metering I’ve seen anywhere near its price point. Worth checking out if you’re considering a new interface.

    I’ll second the M4 - it’s great. And works fine so far with my M2 on 17.2. Plug and play, sounds great.

  • HI everyone,
    same kind of issue here... I'm on an iPad 8, lightning door, IOS 17.4.1
    This morning I tried to record in Cubasis using my ID14 mkII, as I did in the past, but there was no way to record a decent voice via mic input; I couldn't set a mono input in Cubasis routing and the input was all panned on the right channel...
    Any advice to give?

    In this old thread I've read this by @Telefunky :

    Audient suggests to configure the unit on a PC/Mac and after that unplug the cable (without powering down the interface) and plug the cable into an IOS device.
    Then IOS sees the new routing, but will forget about it once the interface is powered down.

    But I guess how can I do as ID14 has no power input but the usb one...
    The only solution would be to power the iPad via a Hub where's the Audient is plugged; do you think I could use my CalDigit Element without issues? I have two options:
    1) Audient > CalDigit Thunderbolt 4 > iPad (via a USB3-Lightning adapter)

    2) Audient > CalDigit Thunderbolt 4 > Ugreen USB Hub (it has a USB C input to be powered)

    Thank you for helping!

    Art

    p.s. this would be a 'non portable' solution, anyway, and this is annoying (I can use my Zoom H4N as a sound card, instead, but I don't think it has the same quality...)

  • @Telefunky said:
    Afaik the ID14‘s outputs 3/4 are just duplicates of 1/2, but may be routed differently for cue mixes in Audient‘s control panel software.
    Which is not available for IOS...
    If you configure the ID14 by a Mac/PC, it will loose that setting when powered off, it’s not stored onboard.
    The first ID interface to store settings internally is the ID44.

    Would you by chance know if they kept this storage of the internal settings of the ID44 on the ID24?
    I found an ID24 for 250e but if the 4 outputs dont always appear on my ipad then I have problems for the live scenarios.

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