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What I like about this thought is the “really learn them” - I stuck and started with Koala and I’m thankful I did that. I got into more App buying this holiday season and I’m glad I did as now I have a ton more tools. The amount of choice is a little daunting, but sticking with the really learn them idea I’ve been making more music without feeling overwhelmed by choice.
That brought me to this “One Song, One App” idea - The idea is exactly how it sounds, make every part of a song utilizing only one app. This has helped me really learn all the apps I’ve had. Using AUM to host multiple instances of the same app has been a huge help to keep it all organized for this project and make it possible.
Some apps this idea is easier, some are harder. Kind of thinking of posting each one song, one app on the thread to learn to share a bit more!
I use app purchase and use as a kind of medicine or therapy. My health condition changed my life many years ago: I no longer smoke, drink alcohol, drink caffeine, socialise often beyond close family or have to take my dog for walks as we had to put him to sleep just before Xmas.
Inbetween bouts of pain, I buy a few apps, make a little music and chill out. I no longer feel a need to 'finish' anything. I no longer dream of making tracks or albums to share as there is so much of what I would make already available: I would just be another voice in an already overcrowded 'record booth' lol.
I don't feel any need to prove myself or gain any ego boost. I have a set amount to spend on all my hobbies and ios music making fights with my other hobbies for the budgeted cash. Each purchase serves the purpose of a little bought pleasure that I feel lucky to be able to afford.
As for choosing apps, I use many, but some become firm favourites and I would love all my hosts to allow us to have favorite slots at the head of any AUV3 list: choosing by name is OK, but my condition means that I forget names often, even if I've just used it.
As ever, just my personal take and only presented here for my own personal pleasure and anyone that cares to read.
I mostly select an app based on the sound or type of sound I want, but sometimes because it’s low on cpu, sometimes I just pick a favorite, and sometimes I intentionally use one I haven’t used in awhile to mix it up.
It can sometimes be a little overwhelming with so many choices, but I don’t let my self get hung up on the decision if I’m not immediately sure. I just throw something in there, and if it works, great, if not, I can always switch it out at any point. Cheers.
There’s an app called Session Notes AU, but since I typically use AUM, I type all my notes in the note section that is inside every project.
I use:
NS2
That’s the list.
Oh wow! This is such a great thread. I was in the same boat. I remember having my old Tascam 688 Midi studio hooked up via Midi to an old Korg i30 interactive workstation. I made so much more music on that Tscam 688!! Even helped my brother in law record his first album on CD! Then sold it all to buy a PC and got all sorts of plugins and never finished a song. Them sold that and moved to iPad, then got all sorts of apps and never finished a complete song. Lol!
So I started to play electric instead and been off iPad for a while. Hopefully this time coming back to my old iPad, I can finally finish a complete song.
There are real (creative) studios and ateliers full of tools, messy in layman’s eyes, and there are clean ones (lifeless) made for Ikea commercials.
Most creative artists, I know, don’t care about the quantity of tools, they only care about their work.
Real studios:
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(I wish I had the opportunity to know those two
Commercial studios:
It can be hard to delete something paid for. I just deleted all my bud apps and Drambo. I never used them. That is entirely on me. I don't understand Drambo and I'm too lazy and/or time poor to learn it. So I deleted it. Right now I'm going through a slow process of doing the same with anything I haven't used in a project, or even thought of a way I would use it, no matter how unique or interesting its features seem.
And yet I still keep buying stuff. I bought EG Nodes. A different experience but I immediately had a handle on how to use it so it's a strong contender for keeping. BAM on the other hand is just annoying me when I try to use it. Again, that's on me. I just don't get it. And for me I think that's important. If I don't "get" it why continue. There are plenty of other apps out there I do get so why waste time on something that is giving me the shits.
At least this app obsession or addiction is not as expensive as hardware. I just tell myself to only buy things that I will enjoy or use. The big problem with IOS apps is that they don't have any demos, other than subscription-based trials. which makes many feel uneasy.
I have bought a shedload of plugins, but now don't use any of them. I want to like drambo but the UI is the problem I have...the modules are finicky with my fingers, and I can never tell what I've got connected to what because no wires and no easy way to see it (unless I'm missing something). I find myself being "not productive". Instead, I have a Syntakt and a Digitakt that do pieces of what I can do in drambo and that's scratched that itch for me.
In NS2, I can do anything I want super quick on either iPad or my iPhone. The piano roll is the best I've used on iOS and it's got all the plugins I need. Whenever I use an AU it just becomes a PIA to do the mappings, hope it works, figure the "unique thing that makes it automatable", having a plugin only be ipad'able and not iPhone, etc. It's just a hassle. Staying all native in NS2 has made it more enjoyable, less stressful, and I can stay in the musical zone the whole time. If I want to do "moar", then I just go to my MacBook and open Ableton Live and work there. My goal is to be able to write music quickly and easily on my iDevice, not have to eff around to get there. That's what my MacBook is for because all those plugins just work. The limitations in NS2 keep my focused on my goal, writing a song.
I can see why people like all the different plugins, but for me personally, I just find them too fiddly to use with my fingers and in iOS daws. I just open NS2 and immediately start writing, not fart around.
I know this is off topic a bit, but I'm explaining why it's very easy for me to "not use" plugins
Its just a PIA to me and unproductive. Exploring is much easier for me on desktop, so I use more plugins.
Not as bad as is not really an argument, it can still be pretty terrible if you are so hooked you also upgrade your ipad every generation. I would have spent three times more on the app store without the two week EU return policy. There should be a two hour trial period like on Steam. Sometimes, actually really often, a small but important detail, like changing or saving presets is annoying enough to destroy the enjoyment from an okay app, and you don't find those tiny gotchas in the manual always neither.
I agree with your intent, but does that mean you create a lot of Obsidian patches? Or do you stick with the Factory & IAP sounds? I use AUv3 & MIDI synth apps to find different sounds, and then either record audio in Slate or multi-sample to create an Obsidian patch so that when I come back to a piece I never have to worry about disappearing apps (which I experienced) or remembering MID/IAA connections & settings. I tend to stick with built-in effects too. Just curious about the workflow of other NS2 power users such as yourself.
Totally agree.👍
I stick to Factory, IAP and the @dendy 's amazing library he put out. I find that I've got plenty of starting points for tweaking any of those to make my own. I haven't used any outside audio or anything, just whatever is immediately available in the packs. I use all native effects and automate the f*k out of them 😂. If you listen to the first minute of this, it's all native NS2 devices (EDIT: honestly the whole thing is 97% native. I used a couple AU's for EQ and one for a pluck that I liked from something, otherwise, its native):
I think music "genre" might make a difference though. If it was doing trip hop or whatever, then I'd need to bring in sampling, chopping etc. BUT, for that stuff, I just wouldn't use my iPhone, I'd use ableton and/or my push 3 standalone because it's perfect for that. OR, the digitakt. My more "cinematic" stuff or whatever you would call that genre of my NS2 junk is much easier to pull of with the stuff readily available to me. I've got another tune coming out, and it's the same thing. 4 different movements, but all NS2.
I love it so much.
Me Too!!!
I agree that genre is a big factor since the Factory, IAP, and dendy sounds are geared toward certain genre(s). Since I managed to acquire a large collection of synth apps, I try to make use of them to broaden my palate. It’s especially fun to sample a great synth sound then use 2 more oscillators to add to that base sound. When I have the time. Overall though I think the main “pro” of NS2 is that users report a greater ease of use and success rate at completing music. That isn’t everyone priority of course, but I am glad for Obsidian’s sample OSC functions and Slate so that I justify the $$ I’ve spent on synth apps, even though I don’t use those other synth apps as much as I could. 👍🏻