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I experimented with NS2’s Audio Export feature recently. Wanted to bring files into Studio One on my Mac.
I found that i was having trouble getting the exported tracks to sync up with each other. Seemed liked NS2 was truncating stuff that didn’t have sound on the first beat. Tried drawing empty blocks so that all tracks were the same length (visually at least), but that didn’t seem to correct it.
Ended up recording to Multitrack Recorder (4 Pockets) in an NS2 FX slot, then exported from there. Those tracks lined up fine.
I unchecked trim start silence: fixed that issue.
Just a test, a very few dry tracks exported from NS2 compared to the NS2 version only mastered in LP4i:
I can keep working in Obsidian, but space designer in Logic is just too gorgeous and worth the extra time IMHO
Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember unchecking that box too, thinking it was going to solve my issue. But still had some weirdness.
I think maybe I was speculating that having Link turned on, and it’s little count-in that it does, might be the problem. But then I had the idea to use Multitrack, and stopped troubleshooting further.
Anyhow, glad it’s working for you:)
And we’ve got an alternate method for any other readers who may be having problems like I did.
Link only always created problem for me. It was was a solution for a non existant problem (for me) in the first place and stopped using it since I decided to do music on iPad only.
The way you describe it makes it sound like the first one is dry and second is mastered. But the file names show that the top one is v2 and the second one is v1…can you clarify which is which? Thanks
@animalelder
V1 mixed in NS2 with NS2 reverbs and zero reverb, mastered in Logic Pro.
V2 dry tracks exported from NS2, space designer added in Logic, mastered in Logic.
Okay, because they both sound good (which now makes sense) and it seems like the difference comes down to personal taste and what you’re trying to achieve.
In my personal experience, too much reverb can be worse than no reverb. That’s not really relevant here, but I’m reminded of my personal experiences.
I’m guilty here. It is a very bad tendency I have: too much reverb.
well one thing you can do is strategic cuts on the reverb send to help the primary sound more clear, like around 2k on a vocal…so depending where the important frequencies of the primary track exist.
Or use a side chain of something so the reverb is ducked.
But yeah I have historically applied reverb too liberally haha
Very important note. In past i did many many tests between NS2 build in reverb and other AUv3 reverbs - to pick really top ones cause i am reverb quality junkie :-)) - and i realised that NS2 reverb, even through it looks simple in terms of UI, belongs amongst top iOS reverbs in terms of sound .. it is really not “your average metallic cold verb”. It can sound really good.
Same btw. goes to NS compressor/limiter .. imho obe of best super transparent clean surgically precise compressors/limiters on iOS.
It always maked me very sad that NS developement is dead when it comes to discussion about it’s speciffic unique properties.
It is.
Chromaverb is also really good. I find a lot of the presets not to my taste, but I find if I reduce the Early/Late reflection balance to have less of the earlier I can get lovely long, clear and lush tails. It's also cool that it has a built in EQ so you can sculpt the sound even when used as an insert (I still use it as a send most of the time, but it's a useful feature).
You can even get long blackhole-ish reverbs with chroma verb -- I never use the presets with it, I start from the default and edit to taste. The visualiser is really good too and helps with the sculpting as you can confirm what you think you're hearing with it. The early/late slider is definitely your friend with long 'verbs.
I cut of a couple of dBS at 300-400 Hz helps clean up the muddiness build up you can get with reverb. Which also goes for the main mix... A cut at 350 ish Hz can often work wonders on de-muddying a mix.
@dendy there is definitely nothing wrong with NS2, my only gripe being the very lazy sustain pedal mplementation. That is an incredible piece of software that perfectly fits my needs when it comes to composing, and I’ve been happy with all the effects, the routings, the deadly midi learn, I produced albums in NS2 only. It is the software that made me totally abandon my music workstation and work exclusively on iPad.
That being said, I installed LP mostly out of curiosity for the auto mastering, and chromaverb and especially space designer are something else.
@klownshed I tweak very little, I lack the knowledge and skills in that area of music making. And I am hyper lazzy. When I have music in my head, I’m in a rush to put it down on paper and record it before it is gone, leaving little time to work on the intricacies of reverb tweaking. I know I should be interested in that and work on improving that aspect of my music instead of literally drenching everything in thick gooey reverbs.
When I was using NS2 I would always export stems to mix in Auria, partly because I would need to track vocals once the music was written and arranged. I never had any issues with the exported stems, they would always line up perfectly in Auria.
I think exporting stems from NS2 to mix in Logic makes perfect sense. You get to use some additional Logic plugins, and you can bounce to audio when needed. It also allows you to track instruments or vocals if you want, which isn't really practical in NS2.
I exported all the Not a Cello album tracks in Logic. Started mixing and mastering.
Of course no I’m not happy anymore with the NS2 mix, but I’m also not happy with what I’m doing in Logic.