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Good article about software quality and cost

SevenSystemsSevenSystems
edited January 7 in Other

I just randomly stumbled upon this article, but it resonates strongly with me and probably is relevant and interesting to a lot of developers and users alike for its insights, especially regarding some recent discussions here.

Recommended read!

https://stackoverflow.blog/2023/12/25/is-software-getting-worse/

Comments

  • michael_mmichael_m

    Yes, that’s a very good article, particularly as it relates to app development. Not sure I agree with all of it in the context of general software development, but a very good article nonetheless.

    For context on my less than 100% agreement, I work for a large corporation in a job that relies heavily on automation with changes driven by laws and regulatory bodies. The company caps its investment in development costs, and developers have no power to influence technologies due to the long lead times to test integration of new or different technologies into existing systems. There’s also a huge pool of good developers who are willing to relocate for good jobs, so it is difficult for individuals to push the envelope. This situation seems to be pretty common in large corporations.

  • SevenSystemsSevenSystems

    @michael_m said:
    Yes, that’s a very good article, particularly as it relates to app development. Not sure I agree with all of it in the context of general software development, but a very good article nonetheless.

    For context on my less than 100% agreement, I work for a large corporation in a job that relies heavily on automation with changes driven by laws and regulatory bodies. The company caps its investment in development costs, and developers have no power to influence technologies due to the long lead times to test integration of new or different technologies into existing systems. There’s also a huge pool of good developers who are willing to relocate for good jobs, so it is difficult for individuals to push the envelope. This situation seems to be pretty common in large corporations.

    Yes, I agree, the last part of the article sounded good "on paper", but it's probably unrealistic, except if you're willing to risk your career. (I do admire those who do though!)

  • michael_mmichael_m

    @SevenSystems said:

    @michael_m said:
    Yes, that’s a very good article, particularly as it relates to app development. Not sure I agree with all of it in the context of general software development, but a very good article nonetheless.

    For context on my less than 100% agreement, I work for a large corporation in a job that relies heavily on automation with changes driven by laws and regulatory bodies. The company caps its investment in development costs, and developers have no power to influence technologies due to the long lead times to test integration of new or different technologies into existing systems. There’s also a huge pool of good developers who are willing to relocate for good jobs, so it is difficult for individuals to push the envelope. This situation seems to be pretty common in large corporations.

    Yes, I agree, the last part of the article sounded good "on paper", but it's probably unrealistic, except if you're willing to risk your career. (I do admire those who do though!)

    Yes, that might work if you’re the proverbial big fish in a small sea, but when you are the small fish in a big sea it’s hard to influence any change.

  • TelefunkyTelefunky

    Maybe (some) people spend too much time on stackoverflow, instead of thinking about their own coding >:)
    (scnr)
    I once asked a question there about some GUI lib details. The few answers I received either revealed that those folks knew even less about it than myself, or they didn‘t understand the question. Possibly my fault...

    But since I was there, why not check a couple of items that captured my interest ?
    The result revealed a shockingly bad quality of content. 10% solid answers/ideas versus 90% rubbish.
    Never been on that site again, except a couple of minutes ago...
    The description of app business price complaints is spot on.

    But on the other hand bloatware is where the business is at. MS, Adobe, even Apple in recent years. Complexity secures development jobs, you don‘t get anywhere, but you get paid...
    Not to forget hunt for security holes: better payment for destruction than for construction.
    Not my cup of tea anymore. :|

  • SevenSystemsSevenSystems

    @Telefunky said:
    But on the other hand bloatware is where the business is at. MS, Adobe, even Apple in recent years. Complexity secures development jobs, you don‘t get anywhere, but you get paid...
    Not to forget hunt for security holes: better payment for destruction than for construction.
    Not my cup of tea anymore. :|

    I'll sign that 100%!

    Even if "you don't get anywhere, but you get paid" might put bread on the table, I'm not sure it's the most fulfilling life philosophy 😂

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