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Can't get Hammerhead to talk to Gladstone (Gadget) in AUM

RonnieOmelettesRonnieOmelettes
in General App Discussion

Got Rozetta to do it - I could just change the Key map template in the nice little menu on the left, but can't find any such thing in Hammerhead. Any suggestions? Thank you - I feel dumb!

While I'm hear, I can't get anything to talk to much of FAC Drumkit - just a couple of the sounds. Clearly doing something stupid there too. Thank you - I'm new to messing with drums and there's something obvious I'm clearly missing!

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  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @RonnieOmelettes said:
    Got Rozetta to do it - I could just change the Key map template in the nice little menu on the left, but can't find any such thing in Hammerhead. Any suggestions? Thank you - I feel dumb!

    While I'm hear, I can't get anything to talk to much of FAC Drumkit - just a couple of the sounds. Clearly doing something stupid there too. Thank you - I'm new to messing with drums and there's something obvious I'm clearly missing!

    I suggest getting a MIDI Monitor AUv3 and taking a look at the MIDI notes that are being sent and using AUM's keyboard to see which MIDI Notes the Gladstone responds to. Also take a look at the MIDI Channel.

  • wimwim
    edited January 14

    @RonnieOmelettes said:
    Got Rozetta to do it - I could just change the Key map template in the nice little menu on the left, but can't find any such thing in Hammerhead. Any suggestions? Thank you - I feel dumb!

    While I'm hear, I can't get anything to talk to much of FAC Drumkit - just a couple of the sounds. Clearly doing something stupid there too. Thank you - I'm new to messing with drums and there's something obvious I'm clearly missing!

    Not stupid at all. It's reasonable to expect drum apps midi trigger notes would be interchangeable, but they're not. So, you have to do some translation work.

    You'll need to insert an app to translate the needed trigger notes between Hammerhead and Gladstone / FAC Drumkit. mfxConvert is a good tool for this. MIDI Messenger is also suitable, though I find mfxConvert quicker to set up.

    • Route Hammerhead to mfxConvert and mfxConvert to Gladstone (or other app)
    • Engage the mfxConvert Learn button.
    • Output a note from hammerhead. It should register in mfxConvert

    • Set the needed output note in mfxConvert

      • If you don't know the notes needed for an app, try different translations until you figure it out.
      • Playing notes into the target app using a keyboard is one way to look for the notes. Keep in mind though that midi octave naming can vary between apps. So, if setting the same note you played on the keyboard doesn't work in mfxConvert, try the same note in an octave below or above.

    • Once the target app pad is playing as expected, repeat for all pads until the target app responds on all pads.

    • Disengage Learn and save an mfxConvert preset for future use.

    Rozeta is a pretty good starting place for

  • mojozartmojozart

    Gladstone is Kick=36 through Ride=45

    Xequence AU | Pads ships with maps for most if not all Gadgets.

  • RonnieOmelettesRonnieOmelettes

    Wonderful - I’ll work on that this evening, thank you.

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    @mojozart said:
    Gladstone is Kick=36 through Ride=45

    Xequence AU | Pads ships with maps for most if not all Gadgets.

    Yup, the mapping is most likely the case.

    I tested a few others with pads like Recife, Bilbao, abu Dahbi, and they all start on the C note midi note 36, and run consecutively through the numbers based off how many pads are in each gadget.

  • audiblevideoaudiblevideo
    edited January 15

    Double check that you app is sending midi on channel 10 (gadget AU drum default)

  • wimwim

    @audiblevideo said:
    Double check that you app is sending midi on channel 10 (gadget AU drum default)

    I don't think that makes any difference. I can send to those AU's on any channel and they work.

  • wimwim

    @RonnieOmelettes - here's a bit of a confusing thing if you're using mfxConvert. Gadget drum machines start at AUM's C2 and go up chromatically from there. But mfxConvert names those same notes C1 and up.

    This is a midi thing. There was never a standard for naming octaves. Some apps name the same note by a different octave. So, sometimes you have to fish around for the right octave.

    Fun eh?

  • RonnieOmelettesRonnieOmelettes

    Definitely. Getting drums now, which is more than I achieved before after several failed ideas and attempts. Just need to figure out the exact pairings now. Well, tomorrow anyway. Many thanks.

  • McDMcD
    edited January 16

    I’m working on a Mozaic script to be useful for mapping drum midi generators to drum app targets.

    I’m starting with Hammerhead as the generator and Gadget’s Gladstone and FAC DrumKit as targets.

    I started hardcoding HH to GG and HH to FAC DK.

    I’m now modifying the script to capture and lock in all MIDI notes from a source. I present the captured
    notes across 11 knobs and present a corresponding lower row of 11 knobs that each MIDI input could be mapped to.

    I’d like to sort the incoming Notes from low to high because currently it’s based on incoming order. Then I’ll upload the script to PatchStorage for user input. I think I’ll call it the “Drum Re-Mapper”.

    If anyone has additional generators and targets worth mentioning I’d appreciate the input for testing and seeing how the script benefits various sender-to-target use cases.

    UPDATE: I have the sort of incoming MIDI notes added and since Hammershead only has 8 Notes total I added a timer to end the potential input phase and jump start a sort.

    I will upload this version for testing and user input.

  • McDMcD

    The script is available for download and testing:

    https://patchstorage.com/drum-re-mapper/

  • gusgranitegusgranite

    @McD said:
    The script is available for download and testing:

    https://patchstorage.com/drum-re-mapper/

    Wow. Nice work @McD ! Will test.

  • McDMcD
    edited January 16

    If you download the script already you should try another download.

    I added a couple powerful features:

    Input and output notes are given scale names like C3, D#2…

    I’m thinking I need to add a reset option because opening the CODE window and hitting UPLOAD is too much to ask many users.

    I tested the script with Hammerhead that didn’t have more than 1 drum active and I had to add more drums in the Hammerhead preset AND reset the code. I think I will use the SHIFT button to do this.

    And being able to save the knob settings has to be implemented. Maybe a whole set of settings that could be recalled via the SHIFT function.

    After a couple more versions I’ll do an announcement thread to get more users feedback.

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