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iBassist - anyone else think the basses are too sharp in attack?
IE, played with a firm pick.
Thought I'd give it a go after it's inclusion into the AuV3 ranks....seems all the basses are played with a firm pick. Not a genuine smooth finger bass among them.
I suppose there is no way to add your own samples is there?
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Yes, I find them "clicky" too. EQ can help.
No, you can't add your own samples.
MIDI out to better bass sounds (PureSynth Platinum / Bassalicious 2 electric bass sounds) is one way to go.
yeah cool, good idea.
Had another thought too, is it possible to midi in to iBassist from a mid source (eg a keyboard playing chords) and have it work in a sort of "live" jammy fashion? By that I mean, not actually setting a "fixed" chord progression in iBassist, but it reacting to the live chords coming in?
Yes. See the midi settings under "Live MIDI In".
You can always try the Attack Softener by Blue Mangoo and see if it gets to your liking.
Does Bassalicious 2 have electric/bass guitar sounds? I have v1 and love it but never upgraded. Might be worth it to upgrade during the next sale if that’s the case.
The Madrid Gadget is quite nice for Bass sounds.
Yes. Very good ones IMO.
If you already have PureSynth Platinum you can also choose to get the Bassalicious 2 sounds IAP instead. I don't know how it compares as far as cost, but sometimes having fewer apps to deal with is nice.
fwiw, the Pure Synth-Platinum acoustic and electric basses are very good! I use them all the time live.
Better, imho than iFretless, with way more options and control.
thanks wim, couldn't really see a specific demo online re this.
just had a play with this, and no it does not work....I did not really think it would. It sees the chords I am playing in, however does not auto generate a bass line as I am playing. That was what I meant by live keys input, not a way to manually record chords. That, I already figured.
No probs, even Ralph Zeuner from Jamstix had real and serious issues trying to create JamBass, so much so that he gave it up in the end.
Seems to be ONLY in the realm of arranger keyboards.
PS: I might add, this developers penchant for no manuals, claiming it is all intuitive, is still very annoying!
Actually it can indeed generate bass lines as you play live. Maybe you don't have the midi input set up correctly or something (it even works in Logic for me), but yes I agree that the lack of a manual is a bummer.
got it set to the device and channel in midi input section (this is in iBassist itself in standalone mode) and there is midi going to to the iPad, I checked with a midi monitor
One last pestering question: how do they compare to the stock PSP bass sounds? I would definitely buy the IAP over the standalone (like you said, less to parse through) but if it’s not waaaay better then the stock sounds I’d be less inclined to buy. Though it may be beneficial anyway since they’re likely done updating V1 considering it’s been like 6-7 years.
It does work. So there has to be something wrong with the setup.
Did you see my post above?
-Yes
-Yes
-Yes device is seen and selected
-Yes (I even set that to two as a test)
-Not sure that would be relevant as it is midi in being directed by the app to a particular section of the app...that that channel may be doing something else is something the app designer should note as a caution if it affects another function. This is the app in it's default state. I've never come across issues of that nature unless those controls are set to a note on/off command on the same channel and those notes are then mapped to the chords recognition engine.
As I wrote it IS seeing the chords as I can create them in the Prog tab screen.
I wonder why they wouldn't just add that function to the entire i(Instrument) line?
What is causing you to say it’s not working?
It you turn on live midi in, start playback, go to the prog screen, and send in some chords, you should see one chord and it should change as you send in chords. The bass line should adapt to the chord shown.
Does it behave differently than that?
Same recommendation. I use it on a few instruments to take the hard "MIDI" edge off of things, and it works well on iBassist as well as iFretless Guitar, and iFretless Bass imo.
wim, as I wrote, the bass does not play automatically as you play in chords - sorta like an arranger adapts the chords and bassline dynamically to the incoming chord, with no preset chord progression.
So, you start the thing running, drums running (with no chords entered) and then simply start playing chords on the keyboard. And then....nothing it's just the drums keep pounding along with no bassline.
iBassist is a "setup and save" tool, IE you need to manually enter chords to create songs for later playback. At least, that's my experience so far, and nothing I have seen or heard is dissuading me from the view. And believe me I ave been scouring the online world!!
I can write patterns easily in iBassist using this method but it does not work, as i would have thought, when using the "live" mode (or my perception of live mode), which simply seems to only mean you can enter the chords via a keyboard.
be just as easy if the dev adds a finger bass no need for any 3rd party plugs to get a sound you need. All those basses are fine for country music but not much else. and the only bass needing a bit of "bite" the slap, is a bit under par to me. Look, apps cannot be all things to all people, I get that.
Just would have been nice to have a softer finger bass option (to buy is fine as well) available
Never really used the included basses much.. Troublemaker (via Midiout) is so good.. But these basses do sound good now.. How or can you save the effects/eq permanently as your own set, as with the drummers.. Don’t seem so..
Ok, so what I have discovered is it DOES work, albeit it needs a bar to make the change to the new progression. So, example, play a C chord in and it plays the C progression, at the start of the next bar play an F.
Instead of changing to the F then, it waits another bar and THEN changes to F.
So its chord recognition engine is pretty slow and needs a bar to engage the new prog. Not surprising really.
For what it is though it's pretty good and will be useful for "fixed tunes" live, but not for simply playing ad-lib chord progs for a jam.
Back to OP, still wish he could add an IAP for a finger bass
Nevermind, just saw your last post.
There's a setting in iBassist for the quantization of the chord changes. Check under the "gear" icon > live mode change. Options are "direct" (immediate), bar, bass line (it will finish the current line then change), or prog (the default you're seeing now.
Yeah, tried that already...it's already set to lowest @ .25
Changing the Live mode change setting to Bar helped, but you have to be VERY precise in your timing.
Still playing around with settings, there might be a "magic sauce" mix in there somewhere hahaha!
It's actually a bit like xMure - you need to hit the next chord about 50-100 ticks IMMEDIATELY prior to beat 1 of the next bar.
It's not musically intuitive, but if you get used to it it can work ok, especially with simple patterns.
If one could edit patterns to a fine degree, you could also set the start time of the first bass note of the bar a few ticks in from 0.0.0 - eg 1.0.75
The setting I'm talking about doesn't have any @ .25.
Does setting it to "Direct" help?
There's also that "Next cord on cutted anacrusis" setting. I don't know what that is, but it seemed to fix the feel a little bit for me when I turned it off.
The setting I'm talking about doesn't have any @ .25.
It's under that very setting you mentioned!
Recording Progression Quantise...options are 1 beat, 0.5 beat and 0.25 beat
EDIT: ahh yes, different section...I already addressed that in my above post....set to one bar seems to work best. For some reason direct is NOT immediate. Although that may have been entering the chord on the 1 beat and not on the 4.xxx beat.
The parameter I referred to is: Live Mode Change. It's found under the gear icon.