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CHOWtape dry/wet balance question?

[Deleted User][Deleted User]
in General App Discussion

Can anyone help me understand what’s happening when I set the dry-wet balance to 50%?
To me it sounds phasey/less loud/unpleasant at 50% while fully dry or wet sound fine in that regard.
Is this a latency/phase issue or expected behaviour? Can’t seem to wrap my head around..
(question also sent to developer)

Comments

  • uncledaveuncledave

    Likely a phase issue. Mixing a delayed signal with the dry signal will null certain frequencies and peak others, depending on the relation between the delay time and the frequency period.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @pruddo said:
    Can anyone help me understand what’s happening when I set the dry-wet balance to 50%?
    To me it sounds phasey/less loud/unpleasant at 50% while fully dry or wet sound fine in that regard.
    Is this a latency/phase issue or expected behaviour? Can’t seem to wrap my head around..
    (question also sent to developer)

    Is the wow setting high? Can't see all the screens in the video and I can't hear the recording well as just have a phone at the moment and no earbuds with me. If you turn off wow and flutter and there is no phasing then the phasey sound is likely the completely expected flanging effect that occurs when mixing dry signal with a wet signal processed to have wow and flutter.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @Gavinski said:

    @pruddo said:
    Can anyone help me understand what’s happening when I set the dry-wet balance to 50%?
    To me it sounds phasey/less loud/unpleasant at 50% while fully dry or wet sound fine in that regard.
    Is this a latency/phase issue or expected behaviour? Can’t seem to wrap my head around..
    (question also sent to developer)

    Is the wow setting high? Can't see all the screens in the video and I can't hear the recording well as just have a phone at the moment and no earbuds with me. If you turn off wow and flutter and there is no phasing then the phasey sound is likely the completely expected flanging effect that occurs when mixing dry signal with a wet signal processed to have wow and flutter.

    Ah yes, that seems to be the cause. Thank you!
    I’m going to experiment with an extra CHOWtape after or before the original one using the new one only for wow/flutter.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @pruddo said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @pruddo said:
    Can anyone help me understand what’s happening when I set the dry-wet balance to 50%?
    To me it sounds phasey/less loud/unpleasant at 50% while fully dry or wet sound fine in that regard.
    Is this a latency/phase issue or expected behaviour? Can’t seem to wrap my head around..
    (question also sent to developer)

    Is the wow setting high? Can't see all the screens in the video and I can't hear the recording well as just have a phone at the moment and no earbuds with me. If you turn off wow and flutter and there is no phasing then the phasey sound is likely the completely expected flanging effect that occurs when mixing dry signal with a wet signal processed to have wow and flutter.

    Ah yes, that seems to be the cause. Thank you!
    I’m going to experiment with an extra CHOWtape after or before the original one using the new one only for wow/flutter.

    No problem! Thing is, what actual sound are you looking for? Seems you probably just want to use one instance wet? And if the effect is too strong, simply reduce the amounts dialed in on knobs like drive, wow, flutter etc. No?

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @Gavinski said:

    @pruddo said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @pruddo said:
    Can anyone help me understand what’s happening when I set the dry-wet balance to 50%?
    To me it sounds phasey/less loud/unpleasant at 50% while fully dry or wet sound fine in that regard.
    Is this a latency/phase issue or expected behaviour? Can’t seem to wrap my head around..
    (question also sent to developer)

    Is the wow setting high? Can't see all the screens in the video and I can't hear the recording well as just have a phone at the moment and no earbuds with me. If you turn off wow and flutter and there is no phasing then the phasey sound is likely the completely expected flanging effect that occurs when mixing dry signal with a wet signal processed to have wow and flutter.

    Ah yes, that seems to be the cause. Thank you!
    I’m going to experiment with an extra CHOWtape after or before the original one using the new one only for wow/flutter.

    No problem! Thing is, what actual sound are you looking for? Seems you probably just want to use one instance wet? And if the effect is too strong, simply reduce the amounts dialed in on knobs like drive, wow, flutter etc. No?

    Yes. Just started playing around with CHOWtape again when the TAIP news arrived..

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @pruddo said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @pruddo said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @pruddo said:
    Can anyone help me understand what’s happening when I set the dry-wet balance to 50%?
    To me it sounds phasey/less loud/unpleasant at 50% while fully dry or wet sound fine in that regard.
    Is this a latency/phase issue or expected behaviour? Can’t seem to wrap my head around..
    (question also sent to developer)

    Is the wow setting high? Can't see all the screens in the video and I can't hear the recording well as just have a phone at the moment and no earbuds with me. If you turn off wow and flutter and there is no phasing then the phasey sound is likely the completely expected flanging effect that occurs when mixing dry signal with a wet signal processed to have wow and flutter.

    Ah yes, that seems to be the cause. Thank you!
    I’m going to experiment with an extra CHOWtape after or before the original one using the new one only for wow/flutter.

    No problem! Thing is, what actual sound are you looking for? Seems you probably just want to use one instance wet? And if the effect is too strong, simply reduce the amounts dialed in on knobs like drive, wow, flutter etc. No?

    Yes. Just started playing around with CHOWtape again when the TAIP news arrived..

    I agree with Gav. I would run it full wet and dial in the parameters to increase or lessen the effect.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pruddo said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @pruddo said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @pruddo said:
    Can anyone help me understand what’s happening when I set the dry-wet balance to 50%?
    To me it sounds phasey/less loud/unpleasant at 50% while fully dry or wet sound fine in that regard.
    Is this a latency/phase issue or expected behaviour? Can’t seem to wrap my head around..
    (question also sent to developer)

    Is the wow setting high? Can't see all the screens in the video and I can't hear the recording well as just have a phone at the moment and no earbuds with me. If you turn off wow and flutter and there is no phasing then the phasey sound is likely the completely expected flanging effect that occurs when mixing dry signal with a wet signal processed to have wow and flutter.

    Ah yes, that seems to be the cause. Thank you!
    I’m going to experiment with an extra CHOWtape after or before the original one using the new one only for wow/flutter.

    No problem! Thing is, what actual sound are you looking for? Seems you probably just want to use one instance wet? And if the effect is too strong, simply reduce the amounts dialed in on knobs like drive, wow, flutter etc. No?

    Yes. Just started playing around with CHOWtape again when the TAIP news arrived..

    I agree with Gav. I would run it full wet and dial in the parameters to increase or lessen the effect.

    Thanks, I guess that’s the best. Even without the wow/flutter a dry/wet mix doesn’t somehow sound satisfactory. Completely wet and dailing the effects in seems to work best as you both suggest.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    sandwiching (tape)saturation and waveshaping in between mid-side continua and low shelves opens up a new world for me.. :)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    never knew processing saturation/distortion mid side instead of left right sounded so different

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    I found these particularly illuminating:

    https://signalsmith-audio.co.uk/writing/2022/warm-distortion/

  • CrabmanCrabman

    @pruddo said:
    never knew processing saturation/distortion mid side instead of left right sounded so different

    I‘m quite unexperienced with mid/side processing. Guess i have to try something

  • tahichetahiche

    @pruddo said:
    never knew processing saturation/distortion mid side instead of left right sounded so different

    Someone in this forum, can’t remember who it was, always used ChowTape in mid/side mode. I didn’t understand the difference, the video you linked is a good explanation. Still don’t know if it will sound better or just different, but I’ll try it in the future.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @tahiche said:

    @pruddo said:
    never knew processing saturation/distortion mid side instead of left right sounded so different

    Someone in this forum, can’t remember who it was, always used ChowTape in mid/side mode. I didn’t understand the difference, the video you linked is a good explanation. Still don’t know if it will sound better or just different, but I’ll try it in the future.

    I didn’t even know CHOWtape has a mid/side mode of its own. Going to look that up. Sometimes the difference seems quite subtle. It feels different spatially..

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Found it in the stereo menu. Great! Thank you.

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