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iRig HD X Audio Out ...... not Coming Out

edited January 2024 in Hardware

Hi,
I have an HD X (iRg), and I can get audio in, but I can't seem to get audio out? I use Loopy Pro as my host.

QUESTION: If the iRig HD X is plugged in, shouldn't "all" of the iPad audio come out through the iRig? All means, like if I watch a YouTube video or play Spotify music or something. ????

The "signal thru" is working. Meaning if I play my guitar into the iRig and dial the settings such that the output is passed directly from the input - it works.

Anyone else using the iRig HD X - having issues?
Are there any special iPad settings that I should/ shouldn't be dealing with?

[YES - I have a post on the iRig forum for help as well]

Thanks
AJ

Comments

  • Have you tried the tricks described in the manual to enable the correct configuration? Turning and pushing the knob as required?

    Have you checked the iPad volume settings, including the actual iPad system volume control? And check that the iPad control panel shows that audio is being sent to the device, not to speakers or headphone jack.

    Also, is this the only connected audio interface (headphone adapter, etc.)? iOS may select a different connected output.

  • @uncledave Thanks for the reply

    Well..... you know you're equipment. So by turning up the iPad volume button - ALL THE WAY UP - I am able to get sound out, when watching a YouTube video, or when playing a stand alone synth (Animoog or Mono/Poly). Howbeit..... it's super, super quiet or super low dB.

    I can not get sound out of Loopy Pro.

    Yes, there's only one audio interface connected, and that's the iRig HD X.

  • edited January 2024

    Is there a truly small portable audio interface - size-wise- similar to the iRig ::::: but it actually just works out of the box, without a PhD or hours of trouble shooting?

    Are there any real competitors to the iRig? I looked at Sweetwater and saw the TC Helicon "Go", but that only has 2 star rating.

    I also wonder what the difference between the iRig HD 2 vs. the iRig HD X?

  • What about the apparently magic operations on the iRig knob? Sounds like you push it several times to light the correct light, then turn left or right to enable monitoring vs audio out. Are you sure you're in the correct configuration?

  • @uncledave
    Yes, I have pushed /twisted /contorted /distorted and used a ball pein hammer on it.

    Yeah, you press down and click the single control to select which output you're trying to manage.

    I set it to the headphones out at first; then I tried both settings - to the left is output from the iPad, and to the right is output "through" or from the instrument coming in. I set it to the amp out, and the same thing.... tried both through and just from the iPad. I played a pre-recorded loop, and I also played a synth INSIDE of Loopy Pro - and you can see the Master Out channel providing signal but I hear nothing coming out from the iRig; no matter what the setting.

    I am not a big fan of modern "one button does it all"; but hey they didn't ask me and they saved $1.46 by not having more physical hardware.

    Three days - and no replies on the IK Multimedia forum.

    Any thoughts on other "mobile" interface options?

  • edited January 2024

    How does the iPad identify the iRig output device? You can see this in Control Center by tapping the icon in the upper right of the Now Playing box. It will also show in the AUM hardware options for an output node.

    And this is definitely an iPad, not iPhone? Because I thought the iPhone Hearing Protection might be getting involved in lowering the volume. I believe there is no such protection on an iPad, though I could be wrong on that.

    This Apple document describes the Hearing Protection features. If they're not on your device, then you're good.

  • @Vmusic said:
    Is there a truly small portable audio interface - size-wise- similar to the iRig ::::: but it actually just works out of the box, without a PhD or hours of trouble shooting?

    Are there any real competitors to the iRig? I looked at Sweetwater and saw the TC Helicon "Go", but that only has 2 star rating.

    The Apogee jam+ worked great for me straight out of the box but it doesn’t have the dedicated amp output like the HD-X. That’s a cool feature for live performing.

  • @Schmotown said:

    @Vmusic said:
    Is there a truly small portable audio interface - size-wise- similar to the iRig ::::: but it actually just works out of the box, without a PhD or hours of trouble shooting?

    Are there any real competitors to the iRig? I looked at Sweetwater and saw the TC Helicon "Go", but that only has 2 star rating.

    The Apogee jam+ worked great for me straight out of the box but it doesn’t have the dedicated amp output like the HD-X. That’s a cool feature for live performing.

    Thanks.... yeah. I looked at on Sweetwater. There is a just a headphone out. Hhhhhmmm... I would really like both headphone out, and a line out for the PA or Amp.

  • edited January 2024

    @Vmusic : are you using as the output on your HDX? The headphone out is also the line out, I believe. The quarter inch jack is an instrument level output not a line out.

  • edited January 2024

    @espiegel123
    HHhhhhmmm..... so are you saying if I am using my iPad as an fx processor, and I want to modify my clean guitar sound, and then send the modified /processed sound with the fx to my amp; that I should not be using the jack labeled amp?

    Maybe..... these audio interfaces are just designed for recording and NOT live performance where you want to send the modified /processed audio from the iPad to a PA system or even a little busking speaker??

  • wimwim
    edited January 2024

    It depends on what you mean by "Amp". A guitar amplifier is going to expect an instrument level input. A PA is going to expect a line level output. For a guitar amp you'd use the quarter inch jack. For a PA or busking speaker you'd use the headphone jack. I think.

    It's actually nice that the interface has both options.

  • wimwim
    edited January 2024

    If you wanted to use the quarter inch output for a PA system, you could run it through a DI box. That's a good thing for a performing musician to have in their huge pile of miscellaneous gear.

  • edited January 2024

    @Vmusic said:
    HHhhhhmmm..... so are you saying if I am using my iPad as an fx processor, and I want to modify my clean guitar sound, and then send the modified /processed sound with the fx to my amp; that I should not be using the jack labeled amp?

    Exactly. You use the headphone jack, but use the magic knob to repurpose it as a Line Out. So, as well as using a single knob, they've multi-purposed the connectors to save on parts.

    Edit: The manual is not very clear on this, but in the Setup section, it says to connect mixer or powered speakers to the headphone jack. And they say that you can send the dry instrument signal direct to the Amp output. Or you can send the processed signal to the "clean" channel of the amp, implying that it's an instrument amp. The problem is that the impedance, and hence voltage levels, differ for instrument signals to guitar amps and for line levels.

  • @Vmusic said:
    @espiegel123
    HHhhhhmmm..... so are you saying if I am using my iPad as an fx processor, and I want to modify my clean guitar sound, and then send the modified /processed sound with the fx to my amp; that I should not be using the jack labeled amp?

    Maybe..... these audio interfaces are just designed for recording and NOT live performance where you want to send the modified /processed audio from the iPad to a PA system or even a little busking speaker??

    You are misinterpreting what I said.

    What are you sending the output to? A guitar amp, a mixer, a PA? What is the specific piece of equipment?

    Out of curiosity, have you tried listening to the headphone output through headphones to see if the audio is audible?

  • @espiegel123
    If I turn the iPad volume button all the way up; yes - I do get audio out of the headphone jack YES. I double checked on 01/24, and it does seem that I can get the processed audio (processed in Loopy Pro with fx plugins) out of the headphone jack.

    What I cannot get is the processed audio (processed in Loopy Pro with fx plugins); out through the AMP jack.

    The iRig HD X is connected because, as you pointed out, in the settings under the headphone in the "Now Playing" dialog shows that something (the iRig HD X) is connected; as shown.

  • @Vmusic said:
    If I turn the iPad volume button all the way up; yes - I do get audio out of the headphone jack YES. I double checked on 01/24, and it does seem that I can get the processed audio (processed in Loopy Pro with fx plugins) out of the headphone jack.

    What I cannot get is the processed audio (processed in Loopy Pro with fx plugins); out through the AMP jack.

    The iRig HD X is connected because, as you pointed out, in the settings under the headphone in the "Now Playing" dialog shows that something (the iRig HD X) is connected; as shown.

    And I believe that's as good as it's going to get. As you previously said, you are getting audio from the Amp jack, only the level is very low. That's intentional, because that it intended to connect to a guitar amp, not to a line input.

  • @Vmusic : a few things, if the output meters on Loopy Pro are showing a reasonable output level, you should not have to have it cranked up high on the iRig. This makes me wonder if you either you aren't turning up the right volume control for the output on your iRig or if possibly you have a defective unit

    You still haven't told us the specifics about what you have the output jack connected to. That quarter-inch output jack on the iRig is for plugging the irig into a jack that you would be able plug an instrument or stompbox into. So, if the hardware you are plugging into would produce reasonable volume from an electric guitar, it should work. But if your hardware is expecting a non-instrument level input that is where your problem lies -- and you would need to use the headphone/line output rather than the amp output.

    We've asked for a details a few times. If you supplied them, we could give better-informed advice.

  • @espiegel123

    Since I am just trying to get the iRig HD X "working"... I am just plugging some In Ears Monitors into the headphone jack. I plugged a 1/4" patch cable from the Amp jack to a Bose S1 speaker. My typical playing is to push the audio interface to a PA System. Right now, I am trying to get "processed audio" that is audio from LP with the fx - out through the AMP jack - and that is not happening.

    I do appreciate your help.

  • @uncledave So, I do understand that "line level" output is quieter; however - the problem is that it has no processed audio from Loopy Pro. I am not using the audio interface to record per se; I'm using it get audio into my iPad; and processed audio, that is audio with fx on it, out of my iPad to a PA system. I can not get processed audio out through the AMP jack. I do get processed audio out through the headphone jack, but not through the AMP jack.

    Thank you again for your help!!

  • @Vmusic said:

    Since I am just trying to get the iRig HD X "working"... I am just plugging some In Ears Monitors into the headphone jack. I plugged a 1/4" patch cable from the Amp jack to a Bose S1 speaker. My typical playing is to push the audio interface to a PA System. Right now, I am trying to get "processed audio" that is audio from LP with the fx - out through the AMP jack - and that is not happening.

    And it will not be happening. As Ed and I have tried to explain, the AMP output is an instrument level. You need to connect the headphone output to connect to your powered speaker or PA system. You may a cable adapter to make the connection.

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