Why do my insert fx sound on a bus/aux track when the bus is set to pre-fader?

[Deleted User]

I’m trying to send the audio from a track in Logic via a bus send to an aux track (soloed in the video). I would not expect to hear the insert effects of the originating track on the bus/aux track when the bus is set pre-fader.

Can anyone help/enlighten me on this one?

In the video I go through the different ‘fader settings’ for the bus. The pre-fader setting is at the end. I keep hearing the distortion effect when engaged on the originating channel..

edit: something went wrong with the video, the pre-fader setting didn’t get recorded, but the effect is actually the same as on the post fader setting, you keep hearing the distortion when engaged..

Samu

Insert effects will always be applied before the 'aux-sends'.
For the aux-sends one can then select whether the signal is sent before or after the level fader on the track.

If you want the distortion to be 'post-fader' send the track to an aux-bus and add the distortion to it.

[Deleted User]

@Samu said:
Insert effects will always be applied before the 'aux-sends'.
For the aux-sends one can then select whether the signal is sent before or after the level fader on the track.

If you want the distortion to be 'post-fader' send the track to an aux-bus and add the distortion to it.

Thank you. I didn’t know that. In AEM you can place the send ‘node’ to another bus anywhere you want in the insert effects chain. I guess that’s more flexible.

[Deleted User]

@Samu said:
Insert effects will always be applied before the 'aux-sends'.
For the aux-sends one can then select whether the signal is sent before or after the level fader on the track.

If you want the distortion to be 'post-fader' send the track to an aux-bus and add the distortion to it.

I actually wanted it the other way around: distortion on the original channel clean on the aux.

[Deleted User]

@Samu said:
Insert effects will always be applied before the 'aux-sends'.
For the aux-sends one can then select whether the signal is sent before or after the level fader on the track.

If you want the distortion to be 'post-fader' send the track to an aux-bus and add the distortion to it.

@pruddo said:

@Samu said:
Insert effects will always be applied before the 'aux-sends'.
For the aux-sends one can then select whether the signal is sent before or after the level fader on the track.

If you want the distortion to be 'post-fader' send the track to an aux-bus and add the distortion to it.

I actually wanted it the other way around: distortion on the original channel clean on the aux.

Ok, now I understand. You’re right again. I’m having a hard time ‘seeing’ these routing things…

Samu

@pruddo said:

I actually wanted it the other way around: distortion on the original channel clean on the aux.

The 'Logic' here is that the clean sound is the source was recorded that will be processed later on.
So you could in theory just pull down the fader on the source track and do a pre-fade send to the track with the effects

[Deleted User]

@Samu said:

@pruddo said:

I actually wanted it the other way around: distortion on the original channel clean on the aux.

The 'Logic' here is that the clean sound is the source was recorded that will be processed later on.
So you could in theory just pull down the fader on the source track and do a pre-fade send to the track with the effects

Yes. Now I understand. I’m a bit slow with these things. Thank you again. You saved me!