Koala Eq

looperboy

Are you using the eq in Koala much, either the one in the main screen, or the one in the mixer?

How do you rate it? With the high and low ends being a shelf it seems more like a filter to me. With only one actual eq peak that you can move around, but defaults to the mids. Am I using it correctly? Can you add anymore points to the line, or is it fixed with two shelves and one peak eq?

jwmmakerofmusic

@looperboy said:
Are you using the eq in Koala much, either the one in the main screen, or the one in the mixer?

How do you rate it? With the high and low ends being a shelf it seems more like a filter to me. With only one actual eq peak that you can move around, but defaults to the mids. Am I using it correctly? Can you add anymore points to the line, or is it fixed with two shelves and one peak eq?

Seems fixed with two shelves and a peak, but it is super functional for the most basic needs. You can always resample as well.

I'd rate the EQ 6 out of 10. Could be more functional, but does a good job with what it has.

FruityLoop

Use the per sample one quite a bit. It is just a 3 band eq. If you double tap and hold and then drag up or down, you can set the q for the shelves or peak. A useful trick for me to avoid passing out to a more complete eq, is to eq the sample, bounce from the tools menu and then apply further EQ - effectively applying an EQ multiple times. That lets me generally shape it and then finer tune on a second or third pass. *Worth noting that it is also worth starting by dragging a copy of the original or pre-bounce version to a spare pad before then bouncing, so that you can always undo your bounces.

looperboy

@jwmmakerofmusic said:

@looperboy said:
Are you using the eq in Koala much, either the one in the main screen, or the one in the mixer?

How do you rate it? With the high and low ends being a shelf it seems more like a filter to me. With only one actual eq peak that you can move around, but defaults to the mids. Am I using it correctly? Can you add anymore points to the line, or is it fixed with two shelves and one peak eq?

Seems fixed with two shelves and a peak, but it is super functional for the most basic needs. You can always resample as well.

I'd rate the EQ 6 out of 10. Could be more functional, but does a good job with what it has.

Thanks!

looperboy

@FruityLoop said:
Use the per sample one quite a bit. It is just a 3 band eq. If you double tap and hold and then drag up or down, you can set the q for the shelves or peak. A useful trick for me to avoid passing out to a more complete eq, is to eq the sample, bounce from the tools menu and then apply further EQ - effectively applying an EQ multiple times. That lets me generally shape it and then finer tune on a second or third pass. *Worth noting that it is also worth starting by dragging a copy of the original or pre-bounce version to a spare pad before then bouncing, so that you can always undo your bounces.

Oh, I didn’t know about the double tap thing. Thanks for that. It’s a bit fiddly on my iPod, but it’s good to know it’s there.

Can you recommend a more complete iOS EQ that you use? I’ve been trying out the Red Rock Sounds ones, but I’m not sure yet.

jwmmakerofmusic

If you double tap and hold and then drag up or down, you can set the q for the shelves or peak.

This is news to me lol. I had no idea! 🤣

FruityLoop

@looperboy said:

@FruityLoop said:
Use the per sample one quite a bit. It is just a 3 band eq. If you double tap and hold and then drag up or down, you can set the q for the shelves or peak. A useful trick for me to avoid passing out to a more complete eq, is to eq the sample, bounce from the tools menu and then apply further EQ - effectively applying an EQ multiple times. That lets me generally shape it and then finer tune on a second or third pass. *Worth noting that it is also worth starting by dragging a copy of the original or pre-bounce version to a spare pad before then bouncing, so that you can always undo your bounces.

Oh, I didn’t know about the double tap thing. Thanks for that. It’s a bit fiddly on my iPod, but it’s good to know it’s there.

Can you recommend a more complete iOS EQ that you use? I’ve been trying out the Red Rock Sounds ones, but I’m not sure yet.

I tend to fall onto the Neon Silicon LRC7 or LRC5 which have always done the job - I've had them for a while though so haven't really kept up with any fresh EQ apps.

royor

@jwmmakerofmusic said:

If you double tap and hold and then drag up or down, you can set the q for the shelves or peak.

This is news to me lol. I had no idea! 🤣

Same here.. thanks @FruityLoop for the EQ tip..

looperboy

@FruityLoop said:
I tend to fall onto the Neon Silicon LRC7 or LRC5 which have always done the job - I've had them for a while though so haven't really kept up with any fresh EQ apps.

Those look good. Amazing that they are free!

kirmesteggno

Koala didn't have an EQ initially, having the current one is really luxurious 🤩

I think it's ok if you combine it with other techniques like layering and resampling, which is how you're supposed to work in a SP-404 like machine (the role model for Koala).

FruityLoop

@looperboy said:

@FruityLoop said:
I tend to fall onto the Neon Silicon LRC7 or LRC5 which have always done the job - I've had them for a while though so haven't really kept up with any fresh EQ apps.

Those look good. Amazing that they are free!

I keep them both installed as LRC5 let's you select and adjust multiple EQ bands at once - and I personally find it easier to interact with. That useful feature stops me just using LRC7. I use LRC7 if I run out of bands whilst adjusting with LRC5.

looperboy

@kirmesteggno said:
Koala didn't have an EQ initially, having the current one is really luxurious 🤩

I think it's ok if you combine it with other techniques like layering and resampling, which is how you're supposed to work in a SP-404 like machine (the role model for Koala).

I really wish Koala had the same simple Eq as the Sp404, just three knobs with a fixed band each. I prefer that to visual eq’s, and shelf Eq. I don’t think the 404 is shelf. I have the Sp303. I think it rolls off, top and bottom.

looperboy

@FruityLoop said:

@looperboy said:

@FruityLoop said:
I tend to fall onto the Neon Silicon LRC7 or LRC5 which have always done the job - I've had them for a while though so haven't really kept up with any fresh EQ apps.

Those look good. Amazing that they are free!

I keep them both installed as LRC5 let's you select and adjust multiple EQ bands at once - and I personally find it easier to interact with. That useful feature stops me just using LRC7. I use LRC7 if I run out of bands whilst adjusting with LRC5.

I’ll definitely give them a try.

HotStrange

@looperboy said:

@FruityLoop said:
Use the per sample one quite a bit. It is just a 3 band eq. If you double tap and hold and then drag up or down, you can set the q for the shelves or peak. A useful trick for me to avoid passing out to a more complete eq, is to eq the sample, bounce from the tools menu and then apply further EQ - effectively applying an EQ multiple times. That lets me generally shape it and then finer tune on a second or third pass. *Worth noting that it is also worth starting by dragging a copy of the original or pre-bounce version to a spare pad before then bouncing, so that you can always undo your bounces.

Oh, I didn’t know about the double tap thing. Thanks for that. It’s a bit fiddly on my iPod, but it’s good to know it’s there.

Can you recommend a more complete iOS EQ that you use? I’ve been trying out the Red Rock Sounds ones, but I’m not sure yet.

My personal favorites are ToneBoosters EQ and AU3FX: Peak Q. Both affordable and both very very good. Check out ChowMultiTool as well. It’s free and comes with a lot more besides.

kirmesteggno

@looperboy said:

@kirmesteggno said:
Koala didn't have an EQ initially, having the current one is really luxurious 🤩

I think it's ok if you combine it with other techniques like layering and resampling, which is how you're supposed to work in a SP-404 like machine (the role model for Koala).

I really wish Koala had the same simple Eq as the Sp404, just three knobs with a fixed band each. I prefer that to visual eq’s, and shelf Eq. I don’t think the 404 is shelf. I have the Sp303. I think it rolls off, top and bottom.

It probably was the 303 and not the 404 it was modeled after initially. Koala has the Tone slider which is like a top and bottom roll off.

looperboy

@HotStrange said:

@looperboy said:

@FruityLoop said:
Use the per sample one quite a bit. It is just a 3 band eq. If you double tap and hold and then drag up or down, you can set the q for the shelves or peak. A useful trick for me to avoid passing out to a more complete eq, is to eq the sample, bounce from the tools menu and then apply further EQ - effectively applying an EQ multiple times. That lets me generally shape it and then finer tune on a second or third pass. *Worth noting that it is also worth starting by dragging a copy of the original or pre-bounce version to a spare pad before then bouncing, so that you can always undo your bounces.

Oh, I didn’t know about the double tap thing. Thanks for that. It’s a bit fiddly on my iPod, but it’s good to know it’s there.

Can you recommend a more complete iOS EQ that you use? I’ve been trying out the Red Rock Sounds ones, but I’m not sure yet.

My personal favorites are ToneBoosters EQ and AU3FX: Peak Q. Both affordable and both very very good. Check out ChowMultiTool as well. It’s free and comes with a lot more besides.

These look good! Thanks!

looperboy

@kirmesteggno said:

@looperboy said:

@kirmesteggno said:
Koala didn't have an EQ initially, having the current one is really luxurious 🤩

I think it's ok if you combine it with other techniques like layering and resampling, which is how you're supposed to work in a SP-404 like machine (the role model for Koala).

I really wish Koala had the same simple Eq as the Sp404, just three knobs with a fixed band each. I prefer that to visual eq’s, and shelf Eq. I don’t think the 404 is shelf. I have the Sp303. I think it rolls off, top and bottom.

It probably was the 303 and not the 404 it was modeled after initially. Koala has the Tone slider which is like a top and bottom roll off.

The Tone slider on Koala is really just a filter, rather than an Eq- and the Eq on Koala is really just a filter, except for the one mid setting. When I said the Eq on the sp’s rolls off, I really meant it eases off as it moves away from the fixed frequency. It’s not a shelf. I wish Koala had that kind of Eq built in.

kirmesteggno

@looperboy said:

@kirmesteggno said:

@looperboy said:

@kirmesteggno said:
Koala didn't have an EQ initially, having the current one is really luxurious 🤩

I think it's ok if you combine it with other techniques like layering and resampling, which is how you're supposed to work in a SP-404 like machine (the role model for Koala).

I really wish Koala had the same simple Eq as the Sp404, just three knobs with a fixed band each. I prefer that to visual eq’s, and shelf Eq. I don’t think the 404 is shelf. I have the Sp303. I think it rolls off, top and bottom.

It probably was the 303 and not the 404 it was modeled after initially. Koala has the Tone slider which is like a top and bottom roll off.

The Tone slider on Koala is really just a filter, rather than an Eq- and the Eq on Koala is really just a filter, except for the one mid setting. When I said the Eq on the sp’s rolls off, I really meant it eases off as it moves away from the fixed frequency. It’s not a shelf. I wish Koala had that kind of Eq built in.

For me there isn't a big difference between a relaxed slope of a filter and an EQ rolloff.

espiegel123

Filters aren’t distinct from EQ.