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Should as well stop making music

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  • So is this an AI generated track?

  • @jo92346 said:
    Yep

    Damn I was hoping you’d say no because it actually sounds pretty decent 😂

    What did you use? Man this is getting scary lol

  • edited February 2

    @HotStrange said:

    @jo92346 said:
    Yep

    Damn I was hoping you’d say no because it actually sounds pretty decent 😂

    What did you use? Man this is getting scary lol

    It is already scary… remember the first music Ai I tried was ugly, and that wasn’t a long time ago. Here the harmony is pretty decent, and the sound just like an heavily compressed mp3.

    I used the google music thing.

  • @jo92346 said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jo92346 said:
    Yep

    Damn I was hoping you’d say no because it actually sounds pretty decent 😂

    What did you use? Man this is getting scary lol

    It is already scary… remember the first music Ai I tried was ugly, and that wasn’t a long time ago. Here the harmony is pretty decent, and the sound just like an heavily compressed mp3.

    I used the google music thing.

    For sure. Just a couple years ago it was abysmal. It’s passable as actual music now.

  • “Should as well stop making music…”
    Did my mother send you here or my wife? 🤪

  • edited February 2

    I make music for myself first but I does feel good when others like it too.

    I guess soon people will not even believe us we when we post a song.

    Last Friday I was at a friend house and I was looking at a new cd he bought and we were debating if the inner pictures were AI or real.

    Sad times

  • AI Music = Sample Fodder for me. 😂

  • Even if AI gets "better" than us, "stop making music" is not an option for me. People didn't stop running or riding bicycles when the automobile was invented.

  • If AI ups its game I’m just going to keep making weirder music until it can’t compete.

  • @jimhanks said:
    Even if AI gets "better" than us, "stop making music" is not an option for me. People didn't stop running or riding bicycles when the automobile was invented.

    Actually most did when you think of it, then they invented the drive through so they really wouldn’t have to walk ever again,

  • edited October 14

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  • @jo92346 said:
    Fucking ai:

    Well, it says "jazz". I thought you were talking about AI-generated music 😜

  • It sounds like the boring crap that runs in the background in shopping malls near me.. AI may be helpful, but humans may go into new grounds with AI. Music has not evolved since the 70s/ 80's IMOP..The best was done and since it's been more about copying the past influences with modern technology. Not too much innovation. There are many great artists today, but many may disagree with me about my feelings here.

  • The way I see it, there is already music out there that is better than what I make. There is also so much music out there that I am a grain of sand on a beach. Add AI to that, it will probably take away some avenues for income. Regardless, I'll keep making music until I can't anymore. That's because, unlike AI, I do it because I want to and I love doing it.

  • AI making music doesn’t fulfill the personal emotional release I get from making music so I’ll probably continue making music

  • @ecou said:
    I make music for myself first but I does feel good when others like it too.

    I guess soon people will not even believe us we when we post a song.

    Last Friday I was at a friend house and I was looking at a new cd he bought and we were debating if the inner pictures were AI or real.

    Sad times

    Same here. Everybody else is unlistenable, so I had to step into the game to do what nobody else can seem to do.
    Please don’t ask me to post links, because uh.. the NDAs that I sign with my um clients forbid me to share my talent if it’s not through them and only represented as them.

  • @ecou said:
    I make music for myself first but I does feel good when others like it too.

    I guess soon people will not even believe us we when we post a song.

    Last Friday I was at a friend house and I was looking at a new cd he bought and we were debating if the inner pictures were AI or real.

    Sad times

    This. It was only ever a matter of time. But if you can get into making music purely for your own pleasure it’s not such a problem. Get lost in jamming. Get into that and what AI is doing to creative credibility no longer matters.

  • @Ailerom said:
    The way I see it, there is already music out there that is better than what I make. There is also so much music out there that I am a grain of sand on a beach. Add AI to that, it will probably take away some avenues for income. Regardless, I'll keep making music until I can't anymore. That's because, unlike AI, I do it because I want to and I love doing it.

    Well said, that's my feeling.

  • what's missing is the eyebrows…

  • The better this stuff gets, the more impetus it should generate in us to hone our artistic choices that such tools conceivably won’t have until artificial general intelligence arrives. The crucial part of any art is why you’d make it the way you’ve chosen. What point do those choices have? “Generative AI” simply seems to answer that with “because it’s been done before”, and it can do it scarily well, but it’s not the same, even if there’s a (great) place for such stuff. (I’m not into the defensive rejection posture that a lot of artists are taking.)

    This isn’t about some ineffable and romantic “creative spark” of imagined “inspiration” that we imagine only organisms can have access to. It’s simply what it is: actual choices in a roiling social context vs systems that are really really good at aping the corpus of what’s already been done (which is still a social context, but only a sliver of one, and a very particular “reproductive” take on that).

    And as much as I love asking an AI to provide me with some material that I can repurpose or riff off — stuff that I would lack the time or virtuosity to execute — I sometimes wonder if being “good at stuff” is necessarily useful. Often I find the mistakes or incongruities a machine creates more interesting than when they get it “right”. For instance, I’m working on a series of visual works that all involve automated document scanning enhancements gone wrong, and some of that stuff I get from those mistakes are amazing. It’s not the same as this apparently generative AI we’re currently excited about, but I’ve done similar things by doubling down on some of the “bad” results I get from Midjourney and pushing them into even “worse” territory.

  • @Antos3345 said:
    It sounds like the boring crap that runs in the background in shopping malls near me.

    Yes, and people who make a living churning out muzak are looking at the end of their livelihoods.

    AI is rapidly devaluing art, which was already heavily devalued. It's shocking.

  • Now that I'm home from my gig, I can share a bit more now that I have more free time on my hands.

    Sometimes I like to create my music entirely from scratch, no matter which app(s) I use (so long as Logic is at the end to master my tracks with).

    Then again, sometimes I want to create something like Daft Punk/Justice. Oftentimes that requires me to sample commercial releases in creative ways, and yet I can't post those to Soundcloud. I flipped my friend @dreamcartel 's track last week (with his permission), and I'll be flipping my friend @ecou 's latest release with their blessing.

    Anyways, what this AI tool can do for me is make copyright-free music in any style I choose, and I can flip that into a beat! Need some fodder for Lofi? I can tell it to make Jazz. Need some fodder for the French Touch? I can tell it to make Disco, or an orchestral piece, etc.


    So, what can't AI do? Well, it certainly can't replicate my sound, my "voice", my style, that's for sure. No matter what genres I produce, I always end up with a specific sonic fingerprint to my work. And THAT is something AI cannot replicate. It can certainly try, but it will always end up sounding generic, lacking a sonic fingerprint that's unique.

    I mean, AI art apps still can't seem to draw a hand correctly, so do you really expect anything truly special outside of basic generic fodder from AI generated music? 😂

  • Joseph, if you're familiar with the Japanese concept of Wabi Sabi then you might also be aware of Annica, the Buddhist concept of impermanence. Embrace and accept it. AI is going to get better, so what? Your music is as unique and sublime as your mind, there will never be a second you. Keep producing and sharing with us !

  • @jo92346 said:
    Fucking ai:

    This is an extremely authentic representation of this type of music. Until 5 minutes ago, I would've believed this style would continue to be way outside of A.I's 'skill'-set. Not anymore.

    Scary stuff.

  • edited February 3

    Moral of the story. Don’t make Jazz.

  • I went through those feelings a long time ago, in the '90s, with 3D rendering and all kinds of “art” generators, including fractals and everything about.

    With the ML era, nothing fundamentally changed, only advanced in the same direction.

    Yes, scammers and plagiarists have more advanced tools, but so do artists.

    Artwork, especially digital, is already devalued. Nothing will change in that field. What’s happening is actually the opposite. People will start to value the genuine performances of individuals.

    AI will never replace a summer evening, and you trying to find a parking slot in some small Istrian medieval village to not be late to listen to a perfect quartet in some humble rustic church. And when you finally sit down, musicians start to play heavenly notes so good that you need to hide tears. Only humans, strings and membranes. Electricity is only used for lighting.

  • Does it get its round in after the gig tho?

  • Commercial recorded music was always a weird left turn for musicians. The best musical experiences are, by nature, ephemeral.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    AI Music = Sample Fodder for me. 😂

    I like your thinking

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