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Haha, okay, was simply grasping for an example of an untunable instrument. I do not actually have a kalimba.
I'm desperately looking for a tuner for my Kazoo.
Just any apps or utilities that can accurately tell you what note your truly on pressing on. NA Tuner has hz/cents, which would be ideal and just match it with the range of a key, but NA Tuner has proven not to be accurate, especially for sub basses. If that’s more easier to understand. I thought I explained everything fine but I guess not, cause everyones confused, haha.
I still don't get it. To play a note you press on a keyboard or pads. Why would they need a tuner to tell you what note you're playing? Wouldn't a keyboard app with the notes marked on the keys be enough?
Or, is it for some app that doesn't take keyboard input?
Am I the only one who finds it fairly straightforward to understand what the original poster (OP) is asking? Sure, terms like "scale" might have been misused, but overall, I think it's easy to read between the lines. Major Wizard might be struggling to find the right terminology here, but what he's asking is, essentially, how to verify if a synth preset plays a C back when a C note on the keyboard is pressed.
I've definitely found myself needing to check this while creating experimental instruments for apps like Salome, using unpredictable input sounds from apps such as NoInputMixer.
@majorwizard047, guitar tuners are effective because they're designed with filters and algorithms that are optimized for the guitar's specific harmonic content. However, with synthesizers, which are capable of producing a vast array of sounds combining fundamental frequencies and harmonics, tuning apps can have problems differentiating the fundamental frequency from the harmonics. So despite some advice given earlier, getting a hardware tuner is not going to solve this problem.
Honestly, as others have suggested, I think your friend should just learn to tune by ear. It genuinely isn't very difficult and is a skill that every musician should develop.
it isn't surprising that a guitar tuner wouldn't handle sub-basses. Is it accurate in other ranges?
How are you determining that the tuner is not accurately detecting the pitch?
What AUv3 have the tuning problems you are trying to correct?
Have you tried the tuner in BYOD?
What do you mean by "the range of a key"?
I was one of the terribly confused people, and remain confused, because the scenario still seems kind of odd— why would someone with no ear for it be immersed in that level of sonic manipulation, when most apps have guardrails to keep you on the A440? I’m guessing they’re braver than I am, and mucking about with miRack? (Does miRack need [and have] a tuning module?)
Of course, I mentioned it upstream, but beginners do open up those synths that easily slip outside the usual A440 universe with the turn of a knob. While Mononoke has an equal temperament mode, unlike the Lyra-8, what kind of a knob is THIS, iVCS3? (Shakes fist.)
Look at the range of the thing! It spins to the dark side of the loom. Please don’t tell me there’s an easier way to dial it in, otherwise I’ll be very cross. 😆
Edit: slavish adherence to the original is one thing when it’s charming, like the floppy disk chatter on various Fairlight clones, but really??
But isn’t the kazoo the most tunable — oh.
So far I thought Majorwizard and BerlinFX and Jax are the same person. Now it’s obvious that these there guys are actually no other than Gavinski himself 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ah haha. If this was Jax I would definitely not be offering any help or even engaging. I don't know why ppl think Major Wizard is some kind of troll, he's posted here a fair bit, and is a normal, friendly forum member, from what I recall!
Cool down guys.
A guitar tuner usually shows you the musical note it believes you're playing so for musicians who have difficulty in spotting the right key when hearing music, why not use it as a little helper utility.
I understand "tune" as finding the right key here, not fine tune in cents.
@majorwizard047
The little problem in getting the right key is that tuners rely on a certain sound profile of your signal to get it right.
If you give it anything other than single guitar tones, it may happen to pick other frequencies in your signals (and most sounds do consist of such) and show you the wrong key.
Some DJ mixing software has key detection (or would I better say "guessing"?) built in but taking an app like the TB Equalizer that I've suggested before and practicing to use it still sounds like one of the better options. It lets you boost specific frequencies easily and shows you the pitch at the same time.
Wow, a “which note is actually being played?” scenario seriously did not occur to me. I’m still not sure it’s what the OP intends, but you seem to be the only person who has translated what the initial proposed context might be in clear terms.
I think a lot of us were confused because the OP mentioned that you could use it (as far as I can make out) to make sure synth patches were literally in tune in terms of cents, which seemed pretty exotic given the experience of the person he was describing. Perhaps he was describing one potential use for tuners with synths, rather than his friend’s core need. I will admit that the drama of the mystery had me hooked.
Scaler 2’s key and chord detection would be useful in that kind of musical context, then, especially because it works with audio and MIDI. I’m certainly glad that such tools exist!
The OP has cited "iOS piano apps", "Pure Synth", and "SynthMaster" as examples which you might load into a DAW and find that a patch was not in the correct "key". Seems to me that those apps are very unlikely to have patches tuned to anything other than A440, equal temperament.
Edit: So the question is unlikely to be about non-standard tunings, or apps that don't play conventional pitched notes. Hence, the question really has no answer.
I remember we already went through this Berlinfx crap awhile back 😂. I’m from Utah wtf. And who is Jax. If your talking about the dev, I do remember him being entertaining 😂😂😂... if that’s the same Jax. @GLacey don’t lump me in with the late night freaks.
You don’t speak or act like those guys, don’t worry, I can’t understand why anyone would mistake you for either of them 😂🤷
lol.