Experimental Loopy / Drambo Patch: Synchronise Loopy Pro to sync pulses from Volcas, POs etc…

catherder

The project can be found on Patchstorage and there is a link to the Drambo part as well:
https://patchstorage.com/volca-drambo-loopy-sync/
The idea is to record the clicks from your analog gear with an audio channel, filter them and trigger a MIDI note. This note is in turn triggering Loopy Pros “Tap Tempo” action.
The drambo patch comes with a “Volca Clicker” pulse generator so you can test and play with this without the hardware connected.

pedro

I was thinking “this is exactly what someone was asking for in the drambo forum” then I realized it was you 😅
Glad you sorted that out! How is it working?

catherder

@pedro said:
I was thinking “this is exactly what someone was asking for in the drambo forum” then I realized it was you 😅
Glad you sorted that out! How is it working?

This solution is not based on a synchronised LFO, but it is merely a discriminator that filters, isolates and forms the trigger pulse for the Midi note event. I realised that Loopy Pro does pretty good beat accurate tempo tracking when using Tap Tempo events as pulse input. So an oscillator is not needed. I want to add a divider though, because there are 1,2,28,48 PPQ clock standards.
And the "real world" test has to wait a few days until I have more recovered from that bike accident. That's the reason for creating the "Volca Clicker" simulator.
You know, Drambo is.....

pedro

Haha 😂 (for the “drambo is”, not your bike accident, get well soon)

hes

My memory is somewhat fuzzy, and syncing Volcas might not be your main goal, but FWIW a couple years ago I had it going the other direction: Volcas syncing with midi sent from Mozaic in AUM using Midi Clock Tool written by @wim:
https://patchstorage.com/midi-clock-tool/

I can't remember, I think the Volcas worked at either 24 or 48 ppq. Actually, I think Volcas used 48ppq but I used the Midi Clock Tool at 24ppq to get half tempo sync on Volcas. And I did something to get swing on Volcas with this "swung midi clock" idea: https://sonicstate.com/news/2013/11/26/get-your-volca-bass-to-swing/. ( by adding 'ppqn=18' and 'SetMetroSwing 50' lines in Mozaic.)

Of course, this method uses Midi Clock messages directly, no use of the audio tempo clicks in Volcas.

catherder

@hes said:
My memory is somewhat fuzzy, and syncing Volcas might not be your main goal, but FWIW a couple years ago I had it going the other direction: Volcas syncing with midi sent from Mozaic in AUM using Midi Clock Tool written by @wim:
https://patchstorage.com/midi-clock-tool/

I can't remember, I think the Volcas worked at either 24 or 48 ppq. Actually, I think Volcas used 48ppq but I used the Midi Clock Tool at 24ppq to get half tempo sync on Volcas. And I did something to get swing on Volcas with this "swung midi clock" idea: https://sonicstate.com/news/2013/11/26/get-your-volca-bass-to-swing/. ( by adding 'ppqn=18' and 'SetMetroSwing 50' lines in Mozaic.)

Of course, this method uses Midi Clock messages directly, no use of the audio tempo clicks in Volcas.

I often use MIDI clock at home but sync pulses have their advantages. The reason for getting the sync pulse input going is that I often jam with my friends from our synthesizer club. We decided to go for sync pulses for various reasons:

• we do not exclude our non-MIDI fully analog and Eurorack members.
• it's much easier to manually start your gear on the beat when the pulse is 1 or 2 pulses per quarter note, than with the 24 PPQ you have with MIDI clock.
• no need to filter out non-clock messages.

espiegel123

@catherder said:

@hes said:
My memory is somewhat fuzzy, and syncing Volcas might not be your main goal, but FWIW a couple years ago I had it going the other direction: Volcas syncing with midi sent from Mozaic in AUM using Midi Clock Tool written by @wim:
https://patchstorage.com/midi-clock-tool/

I can't remember, I think the Volcas worked at either 24 or 48 ppq. Actually, I think Volcas used 48ppq but I used the Midi Clock Tool at 24ppq to get half tempo sync on Volcas. And I did something to get swing on Volcas with this "swung midi clock" idea: https://sonicstate.com/news/2013/11/26/get-your-volca-bass-to-swing/. ( by adding 'ppqn=18' and 'SetMetroSwing 50' lines in Mozaic.)

Of course, this method uses Midi Clock messages directly, no use of the audio tempo clicks in Volcas.

I often use MIDI clock at home but sync pulses have their advantages. The reason for getting the sync pulse input going is that I often jam with my friends from our synthesizer club. We decided to go for sync pulses for various reasons:

• we do not exclude our non-MIDI fully analog and Eurorack members.
• it's much easier to manually start your gear on the beat when the pulse is 1 or 2 pulses per quarter note, than with the 24 PPQ you have with MIDI clock.
• no need to filter out non-clock messages.

You might consider a version that sends out midi clock rather or in addition to tap tempo as loopy pro (and Audiobus) have jitter smoothing which may benefit the quality of synced audio.

hes

@catherder said:
I often use MIDI clock at home but sync pulses have their advantages. The reason for getting the sync pulse input going is that I often jam with my friends from our synthesizer club. We decided to go for sync pulses for various reasons:

Interesting. Thanks for clarifying.