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Never mind generative art... generative movies are where it's at.
Get ready to be completely shocked at the quality of generative video/movies right now.
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That is pretty amazing you’re right
They've nearly completely solved the problem with image stability and consistent characters/backgrounds. It is really, really good compared to other examples I've seen not long ago.
Real actors, real locations and real movie production is fast approaching terminal status. And it won't be much longer before it will be possible to generate all of this in real-time, without waiting for renders. I think we'll start seeing movies and commercials which are completely generated in a year or less.
These examples are genuinely shocking to me.
Problem can be easily solved: make AI illegal 😃 (or do like the EU and legislate 800 pages of gibberish that makes operating AI infeasible (but call it "A spark to spur innovation" or something... no really, I'm not making this up!))
A different approach, more technical, is to slowly and conspicuously dumb the AI down and pretend you have no idea why it's happening (the OpenAI way with GPT-4). Of course this is a bit of a conspiracy theory I must admit, as this would imply a government interfering secretly in some way, because no commercial company would intentionally make their products worse.
In the AI case though, a conspiracy would almost be justified -- the changes it brings about are so dramatic that I don't think most societies will be able to adapt quickly enough without major Armageddon.
Do you know how long the examples took to render?
And were they the "first takes" that Ai produced? Did they have to be tweeked a lot to get them to the finished product?
At this time, I know about as much as anyone else who is not part of their "red team" testers. I have to assume these were the best examples they had available. They even provided flawed examples on the bottom of the page, so they're not claiming that perfect results are possible every time. I'd like to know how many good, usable results are typical versus non-usable nightmare fuel results and I also wouldn't mind finding out how long it takes to get an average final render produced.
Here's a story about Sora:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-16/ai-video-generator-sora-from-openai-latest-tech-launch/103475830
Hahaha, on 00:16, the right leg switched places with the left leg. Everything else? Nothing new, lifeless machine work. There are better fields to use this technology.
Edit: Referring to the first video.
Ha. I spotted that, too.
What I just don't get about this is why? - all these resources, energy and (doubtless) talent to replace the things that make us most human. Why not try to build something that replaces the dangerous and dirty jobs that make life worse instead of, y'know, art?
I mean I know why - because it's easier to train a ML system (I won't call it AI because it's not) on the stolen work of all the artists and creators that have ever lived than actually figure out "intelligence" - but still.
This dog is going through window shutters, every video example is full of nonsense.
Never mind what it’s getting wrong. The fact that any of this is possible at all is genuinely mind blowing.
Picking up on the mistakes is like not seeing the wood for the trees.
Yeah it’s definitely impressive but all very much in dream space still. I guess it’ll get better and better but I wonder if it’ll ever be utterly convincing considering the fact that it’s less ‘intelligence’ and much more ‘machine learning’ - it’s only ever going to be comparing it’s results to its dataset and fingers crossed it’s what’s expected of it…great for Lynch type things (where you’re happy with unintentional surreality, but for stuff that needs the nuance that we as incredibly media literate modern humans like to consume, not yet, and maybe not ever)
Have a look at early cinema and compare it to what movies are today. Early days...
As far as I know, you can’t change the ML model once it is done, only make a new and better one.
This technology has been with us for decades and will be better and more sophisticated, no doubt about. I can’t wait for my personal holodeck.
Exactly... It is not guaranteed at all that the problem of 'hallucinations' will ever be solved. AI might improve, might be brilliant, but may still be flawed and imperfect.
Even if it gets to the point where Ai can get 80 to 90% of the video correct (& you need a human to fix the last 10 to 20%) it will still put a lot of people out of work, sadly.
Machines will never be able to make art, just because art is about life before everything else.
Sorry for my bluntness, but it’s like the difference between real sex and watching pornography. 🫣
That really depends, a lot of the assumptions of where this is heading are predicated on the bespoke per customer basis, interactive and constantly new, so maybe if you can get that 99% there, there’ll still be more than enough work for people who want to do that sort of thing…
I’m starting to feel like it’ll be more like the old vurt thing where you’ve got master story tellers weaving worlds that people want to visit and experience their own stories within. Tailoring and making those coherent will be epic amounts of work, and probably in many ways quite pleasant, designing dreams sounds great fun…
If your livelihood is making stock video then this is just eventually eating into that. But companies like Getty have already been using the same model of exploitation as this with diminishing returns for artists whilst they gain more profit. So the business algorithm is just the same. Nothing much has changed really
The background in the Tokyo one looks especially good as there is a TON of YouTube content for it to draw on - channels like Virtual Japan, Japan Silent Walk, 4K Japan, and many others, some of which post several times a day. Still very impressive, though (apart from that weird leg swap thing).
But movies and art aren't real life either. And good movies and good art can be analyzed, copied, improved and repackaged.
Yes, I've seen many of those videos as well, which is why that video in particular completely floored me.
I bet they will, and already do. Many forward-thinking artists use AI, and to some Mandelbrot fractals looks like art.
I'm a bit torn. As someone who uses AI to create videos for my music, I look forward to when this technology becomes feasible for people with relatively low end hardware. I understand that there are people who are concerned about artists losing jobs. I worry about that too. But I would never be able to afford to pay a film crew to make a video. No one will lose work from me because I simply wouldn't be able to create videos at all.
As it is right now I work within the limitations of what I can create, but if I could realize the things I imagine with software like this I could tell much richer stories. I know I'm not alone in that.
But I also see that art and music have been devalued to the point where making a living as an artist or a musician requires a side job or an insane amount of self promotion and luck. I don't want to see people lose even more ground.
Good creatives are about the last ones to lose their jobs because of AI. People who do spreadsheets, set up meetings, translate or drive buses will go before them, they're just less vocal. I find it funny how a TOOL suddenly seems to scare anyone, regardless of their insights. Bet it's just that - when the tool becomes too complex it's like magic to us idiots or whatever. We haven't seen a tenth of it yet is my uneducated guess.
It’s not about art or creativity.
Nobody but us, worries about jobs in the industry or our rights as artists.
It will be a powerful political weapon used to change elections and control the masses.
Don’t focus on the imperfections or the quality as it is now. It will be so perfect, that we have to change our understanding of video as “evidence”
The "democratization" of movie and video production will mean a person will be able to individually create something that looks like it took a team of hundreds and cost tens or hundreds of millions of dollars. Cost will be less and less of an issue.
Almost nothing should be accepted at face value today, even without video evidence. Motive should always be considered.
Who hasn’t yet given any thought to what their first prompt/text for it would be? 🤔 …. be honest.
"Create... next Avatar sequel."
LOL