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Nice!
Very interesting (had something similar in my mind that is missing on the market, telepathy?). Some sort of pro replacement for TC blender. Unfortunately no price tag yet. Seems to be a new company. The name will promise more 😅 I will keep my fingers crossed 🤞
Here is more information from the developer ... in German
https://www.sequencer.de/synthesizer/threads/mini-usb-audio-interface-16-in-8-out-und-midi-diy-projekt.168634/page-6
Whoa, if this is real, then it would be awesome.
Anyone see mention of expected price?
I always cringe when I see the use of mini-jacks...not because OF them per se, but they are really not robust enough for anything live imo.
Does look nice, but I bet the price will be scary… (since they haven’t mentioned it)
Looks very interesting, might be the audio Swiss Army knife I need.
From scanning the thread at sequencer.de: the developer has specifically the iPad / AUM in mind, therefore the mini jacks. Class compliant, no preamps. To keep costs down he plans to sandwich two circuit boards instead of a proper case. Will present at SuperBooth.
3,7ms roundtrip on ios is pretty crazy.
Oh…I thought it was for eurorack… maybe another rev.
Let's hope this one pans out...cause I am loving the feature set.
Unless I'm reading the German wrong, it seems like it's pretty far away from being a product.
The developer will present the prototype at SuperBooth. I assume to gauge interest for a commercial run, the interface itself appears to be in a beta stage.
Hello, I'm pleased to see that my audio interface project is attracting a lot of interest. Yes, a first prototype should be ready for the SB 24. The PCB design is in the final stages and should go to the manufacturer next week. I expect to receive the first units in mid to late April and hope they work as expected.
For me, this is a project I initially started for myself as I was always looking for a lightweight and easily transportable interface to use at live gigs. My setup fits in a backpack so I can get to any downtown venue on public transportation, but the audio interface I usually use is pretty bulky. And all hardware mixers are way too big to be transported this way. Since I couldn't find anything on the market, the idea was born to develop such an interface myself to connect some hardware synthesizers and outboard effects and mix all analog and virtually generated signals together. Pre-listening independently of the main output was also very important to me. Together with an application like Audiobus or AUM (or even Loopy pro, Dramboo and all others that can control multiple audio IO streams) and a hardware controller, you can build your own modular audio mixing setup with exactly the controls and effects components you need. It is also called "modular" because it is designed to be expandable. By adding a third board between the two boards, you can expand the system to 32 input channels and 16 output channels. Also, different upper boards with different connectors and specifications are possible, e.g. for DC-coupled Eurorack signals or larger mono jack sockets. The design would also fit into a metal housing without having to redesign the circuit boards. But that's all still up in the air. I have decided to start with the simplest, but also - at least for my application - the most suitable version of the platform.
On pricing. That depends very much on the quantities produced. As you probably know: The more, the cheaper. That's why it's very important for me to get feedback and to be able to estimate how many pieces I need to produce. That's also the reason why I'm exhibiting at Superbooth. If there's a big demand, I'll probably start a Kickstarter campaign to fund a lot of units to make them cheaper and cheaper. I hope to get them under 400,-€ excl. retail price, but I can't promise that. The components themselves are already quite expensive and the development of the circuit board and firmware takes a lot of time. Not to mention handling, logistics and a bit of marketing. If everything goes smoothly, I expect the first devices to be delivered at the end of the summer this year.
Keep your fingers crossed for this exciting project.
the driver/software/clock and its stability is a big point here. think of rme, rock solid.
that's everything that counts, other features are secondary.
btw, has someone here tested a rme with ios?
Thanks for popping in here @Marf
This space for multitrack portable interfaces is gaining some traction and I’m very interested in your vision and what you want to accomplish. I’ve been searching for something like this for ages and hope it all goes as planned for you.
I know you’re busy with the project but i took the liberty of letting the fine folks over on the Elektronauts forum know about your project. I’ve linked it here:
https://www.elektronauts.com/t/new-16x8-audio-interface-project/210119
I’ll cross post back to here on that thread as well.
What’s the best way to communicate feedback to you in regards to the project? I’ve already signed up on the mailing list.
Here’s to a bright future of mobile multitracking. 👊🏼🎚️
Great to have you here @Marf!
If you can make it at max. 400,- then I'm in.
I'm using a 12-input and 2-output TC Helicon Blender with Drambo now but 16 ins, 8 outs and MIDI all in a class compliant USB interface would be perfect.
I wish you the best of luck and two thumbs up for doing all this!
@Marf welcome & good luck with project
Isn’t IOS limited to 24 I/O , though ?
I thought some larger interfaces lost I/O in IpadOs Class Compliant mode .
I mention this in reference to your expansion comments .
@echoopera Thanks for cross referencing to Elektronauts. Publicity helps me a lot.
@rs2000 Happy to hear, thank you.
@RetroNewb Thats interesting. I wasn‘t aware of such a limitation. I will try that soon and give feedback
@RetroNewb I just tested running a modified firmware using 32 in and 16 out channels. Works flawlessly. There seems not to be a limitation on the current iOS (tested with the latest version on an iPad Air M1). But the maximum sample rate will drop to 48kHz as the USB 2.0 bandwidth isn't large enough for 96kHz
@Marf wow , interesting . good work .
what means flawless?
did you record 32 input and played out 16
output channels simultaniously?
which daw?
Basically, the device (like any audio interface) always sends and receives audio data, even if nothing is connected. There is no difference between sending zeros and receiving background noise. The other aspect is whether the host system can handle the amount of data, e.g. record all 32 tracks simultaneously. In my case, I'm using an iPad Air with M1 processor (the main target for this device) and just tested recording all 32 channels in parallel with AUM and mixed them all together in one stereo sum. The stereo mix was also sent out to the 16 output channels in parallel. OK, the amount of recorded data is quite large, about 280MB per minute, but it works without any problems, the DSP is only utilized with about 5%.
Spotted in the Elektron Superbooth thread:
That is amazing.
Kudos to you @Marf , this is super interesting. I’m wondering… to do fx loops, audio send/returns, reamping and other audio “bus” applications you’d do it all in the iOS app (AUM, loopy…). Right?.
Say I’d want an fx loop with some guitar pedals to process a synth app… I would connect the pedals to out 7/8 on the mixer then back in to ins 15/16. In AUM you’d set a bus set to out 7/8 and anything you send there would be processed by the pedals and sent back to ins 15/16… I’m just thinking out loud here, I’m loving the idea.
Yes, tha’ts no problem. It just adds 4ms more latency, which is than 8ms…
Mark me down as interested! For my situation, I likely won't be able to justify paying more than $400 maximum. For my use case, I would not need 16 channels, 8 would be plenty. If you needed to price above $400, I would likely hold out for a more budget friendly 8 channel option.