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Learn IDAM in 3 Minutes.

FYI ... I just posted a short video demonstrating how to use IDAM with my desktop DAW of choice, MOTU Digital Performer. The steps should be similar for other DAWs, except for DP's unique ability to create an aggregate device within the program. This would need to be done in Audio MIDI Setup for other DAWs. Also, instead of connecting directly to the Mac's USB port I recommend using a powered hub. In the past this wasn't needed but became necessary with recent systems in order to ensure reliable performance.

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  • The powered hub is definitely a good idea, as it’s been stable for just about anything I connect up to the MacBook, but direct connections not so much (but rare that things don’t work well really though).

  • I've been able to get by with an unpowered hub most times too, but powered is better/safer. I can't keep an iDAM connection at all without some kind of hub though.

  • edited March 29

    @wim said:
    I've been able to get by with an unpowered hub most times too, but powered is better/safer. I can't keep an iDAM connection at all without some kind of hub though.

    I think it might have to do with power requirements. I've got a couple of SSDs, two 8 port MIDI interfaces, keyboards, e-drums, and more all connected to the same USB bus. Then ad to that the demands of a 12.9 in iPad Pro! I was getting all kinds of crackling and dropouts before I went with the hub. Been rock solid stable afterwards.

  • @wim said:
    I've been able to get by with an unpowered hub most times too, but powered is better/safer. I can't keep an iDAM connection at all without some kind of hub though.

    The only thing I ever had issues with is my EWI - it will work through an unpowered hub, but it’s not a reliable connection. No issues whatsoever through a powered hub though.

  • This video is phase one of a more advanced video which will cover GeoShred with DP's new MPE support. I've been experimenting with it this week. Got it like 90% sorted, and it is generally working well, but I've still got a couple issues I'm trying to nail down.

  • Look forward to the next one then!

  • Thank you! 🙂

  • That's amazing and sounds top quality. 🤩 Now I used to use DP in uni (it was the DAW of choice for that uni), but I never could gel with it. But given how excellent your music always sounds, you've proven that DP is an excellent DAW afterall. Either that, or you're a wizard. I'll wager it's both.

    How've you been doing these days?

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    That's amazing and sounds top quality.

    Thanks! The music was a little scrap I had around of my noodling around with Syntronik's GS-V, based on the ultra-rare early Yamaha FM synth, the GS-1. A wonderfully crunchy EP sound that is quite different from the over-used DX7 EP. I needed some background music for the video, so just threw that in there.

    https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/syngsv/

    Now I used to use DP in uni (it was the DAW of choice for that uni), but I never could gel with it.

    Yes, I also started with DP at university, way back in the late 80s, then a MIDI-only sequencer called Performer. I have basically just stuck with it ever since. Other competing sequencers for the Mac at the time included Opcode Vision, Mastertracks Pro, and Beyond. Antecedents of Logic and Cubase were spawning on the Atari platform and I believe Pro Tools started out as an editing program for the E-mu Emulator. I've tried other DAWs over the years, but after so many years, I can work most efficiently in DP. Anything else feels like, it's all there, but everything in the wrong place.

    I also adopted MOTU hardware early on, first MIDI interfaces, and then audio, and it makes for a nicely integrated system. Plus, you have only one company to deal with for tech support. Nowadays MOTU is probably better known for their hardware, and DP seems to be mainly favored by old timers like me, plus a lot of film composers. It has certain features that make it especially well-suited for music-to-picture.

    How've you been doing these days?

    Well, this week it was a few days putting together this video. It started off with the announcement that GeoShred was coming to Mac. This led me to realize that, whilst I'd used Geoshred in projects in the past, it has always been audio-only. This, in turn, reminded me that DP added MPE support as of v. 11 but I've never really checked it out.

    I then quickly discovered that there were no tutorials or videos about it, so I was on my own studying the dry prose of the manual, which I supplemented with email questions to MOTU and moForte. Since I had invested so much time in trying to sort it all out, I realized I should probably document my discoveries in video, since nobody else seems to have covered the topic. But then I realized that first I needed to cover IDAM in general, since that is an essential foundation for using DP + Geoshred and MPE.

    So now I've got most of how to do it sorted out and hope to find time to do a video soon. But it's tricky because you have to present the Mac screen, the iPad screen, and good sounding audio all at once -- so there's all those videography challenges to sort out on top of trying to master the topic itself!

  • @Lady_App_titude said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    That's amazing and sounds top quality.

    Thanks! The music was a little scrap I had around of my noodling around with Syntronik's GS-V, based on the ultra-rare early Yamaha FM synth, the GS-1. A wonderfully crunchy EP sound that is quite different from the over-used DX7 EP. I needed some background music for the video, so just threw that in there.

    https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/syngsv/

    Nice! 😃

    Now I used to use DP in uni (it was the DAW of choice for that uni), but I never could gel with it.

    Yes, I also started with DP at university, way back in the late 80s, then a MIDI-only sequencer called Performer. I have basically just stuck with it ever since. Other competing sequencers for the Mac at the time included Opcode Vision, Mastertracks Pro, and Beyond. Antecedents of Logic and Cubase were spawning on the Atari platform and I believe Pro Tools started out as an editing program for the E-mu Emulator. I've tried other DAWs over the years, but after so many years, I can work most efficiently in DP. Anything else feels like, it's all there, but everything in the wrong place.

    That's the way I felt about other DAWs other than FL Studio back during my PC production days. Such as Live - I gave Live Lite a shot, and it just felt...off. Same with Reaper. I tried to like those DAWs, but it just felt off.

    Then again, when I got a Windows laptop to sort my files out from my OP-1 Field, curiosity got the better of me, and I tried FL Studio again. Gave up after 10 minutes. My own favourite DAW felt off compared to FL Studio Mobile, Nanostudio 2, Cubasis 3, Logic, etc. All that to say - I get exactly where you're coming from. ❤️

    I also adopted MOTU hardware early on, first MIDI interfaces, and then audio, and it makes for a nicely integrated system. Plus, you have only one company to deal with for tech support. Nowadays MOTU is probably better known for their hardware, and DP seems to be mainly favored by old timers like me, plus a lot of film composers. It has certain features that make it especially well-suited for music-to-picture.

    That's amazing! 🤩 Which features are those, Ms Apptitude? If I ever compose for film someday, I'd like to know what DP has. I may jolly well invest in a proper Mac and that software.

    How've you been doing these days?

    Well, this week it was a few days putting together this video. It started off with the announcement that GeoShred was coming to Mac. This led me to realize that, whilst I'd used Geoshred in projects in the past, it has always been audio-only. This, in turn, reminded me that DP added MPE support as of v. 11 but I've never really checked it out.

    Well that's cool. :) I'm glad you're checking out the MPE support.

    I then quickly discovered that there were no tutorials or videos about it, so I was on my own studying the dry prose of the manual, which I supplemented with email questions to MOTU and moForte. Since I had invested so much time in trying to sort it all out, I realized I should probably document my discoveries in video, since nobody else seems to have covered the topic. But then I realized that first I needed to cover IDAM in general, since that is an essential foundation for using DP + Geoshred and MPE.

    I'm so happy you're sharing your discoveries with us. These are very interesting to learn about. :) Even if I don't end up using the tech someday, I'm always curious to learn what else is out there.

    So now I've got most of how to do it sorted out and hope to find time to do a video soon. But it's tricky because you have to present the Mac screen, the iPad screen, and good sounding audio all at once -- so there's all those videography challenges to sort out on top of trying to master the topic itself!

    That's certainly akin to complex choreography. I know you got this though. Just takes time, but I have a feeling it'll be worth the wait.

  • Thanks for your demo. I’m also a DP user since forever.

  • How is IDAM different from SideRack?

  • @Lorichs said:
    How is IDAM different from SideRack?

    IDAM is not bidirectional , free
    SideRack (new app?) seems to support both way communication and is a paid Mac app

  • @Lorichs - SideRack lets you "host" your iOS apps inside a desktop DAW as if they were running locally.

    iDAM just adds a single audio source from the iOS device to the desktop. It also supports midi both directions. Probably has a little less latency, though I haven't tested SideRack to verify that.

  • @Lorichs said:
    How is IDAM different from SideRack?

    Never heard of SideRack. I used to use Studiomux, and before that MusicIO, both of which I preferred over IDAM, but they became abandonware. Maybe SideRack is the new Studiomux?

  • Ah, I see SideRack requires macOS 11.0 or higher.

    No go for me for now.

  • Thanks @Korakios @wim and @Lady_App_titude

    Good to know since i’m considering buying a laptop, but i’m sitting on the fence because i really love working on ipad.

  • Too bad SideRack doesn't offer a PC version. Since IDAM is Mac only, Studiomux was the only option for PC.

  • @Lady_App_titude said:
    Too bad SideRack doesn't offer a PC version. Since IDAM is Mac only, Studiomux was the only option for PC.

    PCs have always been problematic connecting to other devices for sound, so I would guess there are significantly more problems to overcome than there are for the Mac version.

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