Ripping stems/snags from Tidal/YouTube into Logic Pro on Mac?

HolyMoses

I had some snippets of cool sounds in different Tidal-songs and YT-videos I would record into Logic Pro for Mac.
Downloaded 'Existential Audio's BlackHole' driver and installed on my Mac - It works great!

But, my question to you is - sound quality?
It's hard to compare, but, I thinks the recorded audiotrack in Logic Pro sounds a tiny different that listening directly to Tidal...

The rip from Tidal is lossless - but, is it a way to analyze this further just to see that my ears telling the truth?

My wife thinks they sound the same... Hmmm...

Jerry

if it sounds alike, it's a non-issue.

HolyMoses

@Jerry said:
if it sounds alike, it's a non-issue.

Yeah, perhaps!
But, you know how some of us are, having severe imagination...

Have you tried yourself ripping from streaming services?

Jerry

nope, I rip from youtube and it sounds fine for my needs.

kirmesteggno

You can try and set up an A/B double blind test in Logic (Im sure that the're tutorials on how to do that). The brain can trick your hearing if you're biased in any way through visuals or previous knowledge.

Here's an extreme example

Btw, the Blackhole dev now also has an app in the appstore called Dipper which works like a streamlined Blackhole for the Mac menu bar. (you have to download an addon from their website to enable the system recording functionality. Apart from routing the 2ch stream from app to app, you can also record to desktop. It's not cheap but I got it after using the free Blackhole for years instead of donating.

HolyMoses

@kirmesteggno said:
You can try and set up an A/B double blind test in Logic (Im sure that the're tutorials on how to do that). The brain can trick your hearing if you're biased in any way through visuals or previous knowledge.

Here's an extreme example

Btw, the Blackhole dev now also has an app in the appstore called Dipper which works like a streamlined Blackhole for the Mac menu bar. (you have to download an addon from their website to enable the system recording functionality. Apart from routing the 2ch stream from app to app, you can also record to desktop. It's not cheap but I got it after using the free Blackhole for years instead of donating.

Thanks for that!

Also, thank's for the mention of the app Dipper!

I'll be back with my thought later concerning A/B listening...

klownshed

Play them both aligned perfectly with one phase inverted. Whatever is left is the difference betweeen them.

HolyMoses

@NicoleCC said:
It's great to hear you're using Existential Audio's BlackHole driver with Logic Pro for recording sounds from Tidal and YouTube! If you notice a slight difference in sound quality between the recorded audio and the original Tidal stream, it could be due to the recording process. To analyze this, you can compare the waveforms and frequency spectrums in Logic Pro or conduct a blind ABX test. For a better solution, consider using NoteBurner Tidal to MP3 Downloader to download Tidal tracks directly, preserving HiFi audio quality and potentially eliminating any discrepancies.

SPAM!

pedro

@klownshed said:
Play them both aligned perfectly with one phase inverted. Whatever is left is the difference betweeen them.

My first thought, too. But they must be at exactly the same level. Maybe tidal player does some compression or level evening that will defeat this approach.
Depending what the audio is being used for this may be irrelevant though. What’s the point of having pristeen audio unless for acoustic tracks? I’m probably going to use distortion, resonators, etc, but then again I only do dance music