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Anyone Experiencing App Issues After Updating to iOS 17.4.1 IPad (Solved)
I have an older iPad, iPad 6, with 128gb and since I updated a few weeks ago to iOS 17.4.1 I have had off and on trouble with opening various apps. There isn’t a ton of open space, maybe 4GB and my iCloud has maybe 10gb of open storage.
The weird thing is sometimes they work and sometimes they don’t. Sometimes appRaven will open, sometimes it will only open to the blue screen then it crashes. Another example when in a small AUM session an app will not load. Ive also had it happen when loading a previous AUM session it struggles on loading the third or fourth app. When in AUM I’ve had multiple apps take awhile to load into a node, Atom 2, a few different synths, etc… sometimes eventually loading, sometimes never loading at all, just a permanent “please wait, app is loading” until I give up, lol. Timed it once up to 10 minutes. If I have the time I turn off and turn back on iPad, which usually works for a little but then my iPad seems to go back to the same behavior. It’s not every app but it has been the few I mentioned as well as other random AUv3. Honestly it’s super annoying, it’s really messing with my music making and app sale reporting workflow.
I don’t have this issue on my iPhone 13 Pro that’s on iOS 17.2. Or 17.2.1, but it is a newer device than my tablet.
I’m wondering if anyone has had a similar issue? Particularly on an older device after updating to the newest iPad iOS. Could it be apple deprecating older devices? I find it strange that these apps/situations go back and forth between working and not working. It’s been occurring with a few different apps, but not always the same ones. The two that stand out from repeated issues are Atom 2 in AUM and AppRaven, but there are others. There doesn’t seem to be any correlation or reason I can think of… the only thing I know is, it started not long after the newest iOS update. I thought I might see someone post another thread about this issue, but haven’t noticed anything, so I decided to ask the forum myself…
If anyone has experienced this please let me know. Also if anyone could possibly recommend any potential solutions I would greatly appreciate it. I really don’t want to downgrade, or anything major, like a factory reset and reinstall a backup. Thanks for reading, cheers!
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Here is a screen shot of over 2min waiting for atom 2 to load up in my Piano Motifs template, it never loaded, I gave up after 3 mins or so…
Hi. I have exactly your specs, and no such problem. It sounds to me like a memory problem. Have you tried restarting the iPad, not just power off? Power off in an iPad is just Sleep, and has no real effect on the loaded processes.
I can’t speak to 17.4.1, but I’m running 17.5 betas on my iPad 7 and haven’t experienced any such issues.
I don’t think Apple is deprecating older devices, this gen likely won’t run iOS 18 as it is. Maybe try a reinstall of just AUM?
I haven’t updated my iPad 6 (due to the MIDI out issues with my new iPad on 17.4.1), but what you’re experiencing sounds very much like what I used to get on my 6 quite often with memory intensive apps (Fundamental was one I had trouble with). I think it’s RAM (the iPad’s working memory, as opposed to storage, which is what you have in iCloud and the 4GB local storage). I suspect it’s 17 using more RAM than 16. I used to fix it by manually killing all other apps before launching AUM, but sometimes that didn’t work after a time between reboots. So killing all apps and a restart would be a good place to start. You might try a forced restart, too (not a complete restore or whatever). Press and hold power and home buttons together until the Apple logo appears - it clears some stuff that a power off and power on doesn’t.
I don’t think it’s Apple making old devices not work deliberately, but they do tend to update things one step past the point where it causes problems unless you’re just using the thing for casual browsing etc. I have bad memories of my poor old iPad 3 creaking along slowly after updating to 9!
Also, try force-quitting any large apps, especially browsers and video players (You Tube, etc.). Double tap on the Home button and swipe the icons off the top of the screen.
Thanks @uncledave @ahallam @bygjohn
I do think RAM is one of the most likely issues, that and the age of the device.
Yea if memory serves, I think my iPad just made the cut for iOS 17, so you’re probably right on that cutoff.
I usually don’t leave things open that much, and have force quit the apps to clear them, and ensure Im maximizing the processing power.
@bygjohn oh…l ok… so thats the new way to “soft restart” or whatever it’s called. Apple changed the method awhile back and I wasn’t sure about the new method. It used to be, hold power button, then on the “slide to power off screen” hold the home button until it made you enter PIN number. thanks for describing the new method. It’s something I’ve been meaning to look up.
Force-quitting apps is not enough to clear memory. It sounds like you have not yet done a full power off restart; you need to do that. The clear memory restart (hold Power and Home until device restarts) has been like that for over ten years. The alternative you describe just clears memory without restarting the device
@Poppadocrock, check whether the atom folder has been offloaded to iCloud:
If you see the cloud icon, then long press on the file and tap the ‘download now’
Then try to load again in AUM.
I’m curious whether it fixes the issue.
Oh ok. My mistake. Thanks for the clarification on that @uncledave
I’ll check that @GLacey and let you know, thanks.
You know what @GLacey one of the issues I have been encountering but didn’t mention is trouble connecting to iCloud through the files app. It has happened a few times. When it happened it just keeps trying to sync, and doesn’t, eventually just getting a little ‘not connected icon’ next to iCloud on the left hand side…. Huh. I’m gonna try a couple things.
The only reason I updated the dang thing was because I kept having safari issues.
Ok. Did @uncledave hard full power off restart, and iCloud connected right away upon opening.
Atom 2 was offloaded in iCloud. So I am downloading that now too.
I’ll run some tests, but I already see some improvement l thanks 🙏 truly.
I have no idea why I didn’t know that @uncledave either I did and forgot it or I got it confused with the soft restart to clear memory.
Either way thanks for the help.
Great! Sounds like there was some lost content tying up memory. It doesn't take much since there's only 2 GB total.
SOLVED. Thank you guys so much. Im both happy this is solved and embarrassed I didn’t know/remember such a basic troubleshooting technique. I know I’ve come across it before but I think I always thought turning off your device and leaving it off for 5 mins, before turning it back on was equivalent to restarting a device.
(lol. I just said… I think I always thought.) I also thought the clear cache restart and hard restart were one in the same.
I don’t know… lol.. Irregardless, one less thing to worry about, lol. Cheers.
My ipad connected to iCloud via files app.
My Saved Template in AUM loaded Atom 2, it hesitated but worked.
App Raven is working each time I open it.
Everything seems a bit smoother, honestly.
Yea, you called it @uncledave
I think @GLacey was onto something too, after the hard restart Atom 2 was not downloaded from iCloud. So I downloaded it in the files app before trying to load it in AUM, and it worked.
Thanks y’all!
If you have an iPad that doesn’t have a home button force restart is: tap volume up button, tap volume down button, then hold the power button until Apple logo appears. I had to look this up and thought it may help someone.
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Glad you got it sorted.
If you're experiencing issues after updating to iOS 17.4.1 on your iPad, you're not alone. It's not uncommon for new updates to bring unforeseen bugs. Consider restarting your device, checking for app updates, or reaching out to Apple support for assistance. Patience and troubleshooting often resolve such issues.
On that note, be wary with 17.5; I’ve heard it’s very buggy. Just look into it before you update if you haven’t