Logic Pro for iPad 2 - Everything you need to know

zzrwood

@Jumpercollins said:

@Samu said:

@Jumpercollins said:
The tempo track can you make it reduce tempo slowly ie draw in diagonal lines or does it jump up and down ?

You can go full on nutty mode with curves or lines etc.

Hi @Samu thanks for that bit fiddly but got the idea now.

Another Q for you, can you drag the chord track chords onto an individual track on the iPad version of Logic Pro 11 like you can in the desktop version do you know. Again I tried it but no joy.

Not sure if this is what you are trying to do but you can copy chord progressions from the master track to a session player region (or yellow Apple Loop region) - and also do the reverse.

I actually find it easier to enter chord progressions in a region and then copy to master track, if needed. Entering chords into the master track is awkward, IMO. Definitely worth having a look at the tutorial as it makes things clearer.

Also, it’s worth having a look at some of the chord progressions in the Apple Loops, they can be quite interesting…

moForte

We have received a number of reports that in Logic 2 for iOS/iPadOS, Software Instruments with their own keyboard will not record to a track. After investigating we learned that Software Instruments with their own keyboard need to be configured to send MIDI to the track. The video below shows how to do this;

HolyMoses

@moForte said:
We have received a number of reports that in Logic 2 for iOS/iPadOS, Software Instruments with their own keyboard will not record to a track. After investigating we learned that Software Instruments with their own keyboard need to be configured to send MIDI to the track. The video below shows how to do this;

Thanks for inform us to this!

Thelast27

Whooooa chromaglow is a cpu hog on my M1 iPad Pro. Anyone else experiencing this - sometimes the cpu will jump almost over half from very little.

HolyMoses

@Thelast27 said:
Whooooa chromaglow is a cpu hog on my M1 iPad Pro. Anyone else experiencing this - sometimes the cpu will jump almost over half from very little.

If you use ChromaGlow together with other heavy plugins and instruments, do you get crackles in the sound?

Or, are this CPU meter just show activity on single core?

Michael_R_Grant

Is there any way to easily get Apple Music tracks (or just 'commercial songs in general') into the Stem Splitter?

If I wanted a song to split, I had to find it on Youtube, screen record it, extract the audio into Koala, save the Koala sample in Files and then drag that to Logic. Seems like a massive faff! There must be an easier way to get the audio!

Samu

@Michael_R_Grant said:
Is there any way to easily get Apple Music tracks (or just 'commercial songs in general') into the Stem Splitter?

If I wanted a song to split, I had to find it on Youtube, screen record it, extract the audio into Koala, save the Koala sample in Files and then drag that to Logic. Seems like a massive faff! There must be an easier way to get the audio!

If you've got TwistedWave installed it can import from the Music Library (the tracks need to be downloaded and CRM free) and 'share' to Files.app as *.wav and import to Logic.

HolyMoses

@Michael_R_Grant said:
Is there any way to easily get Apple Music tracks (or just 'commercial songs in general') into the Stem Splitter?

If I wanted a song to split, I had to find it on Youtube, screen record it, extract the audio into Koala, save the Koala sample in Files and then drag that to Logic. Seems like a massive faff! There must be an easier way to get the audio!

On my Mac I just drag’n’drop Commercial music into Logic thru my Apple Superdrive (from original CD records) - easy.

But, a little bit harder on iPad, so, perhaps Samu’s idea thru TwistedWave is the best…

But, maybe you can get those files onto and SD-memory or USB Stick and from there import it to LP4i thru some adapter?

Dham

@Michael_R_Grant said:
Is there any way to easily get Apple Music tracks (or just 'commercial songs in general') into the Stem Splitter?

If I wanted a song to split, I had to find it on Youtube, screen record it, extract the audio into Koala, save the Koala sample in Files and then drag that to Logic. Seems like a massive faff! There must be an easier way to get the audio!

A massive faff indeed! I attempted the same task just last night:) I ended up using Transcribe which allows easy import of local Apple Music tracks, importing of audio tracks via Files.app and sharing of stems via Files.app which are then easily dropped into LP4i. The quality of the stems is comparable if not better than the stems produced in LP4i. I've only tested a few in LP4i but have done many using Transcribe.

I will give Twisted Wave a spin, but it seems like one of the 'Major' new features in LP4i is a letdown.

FPC

@Dham said:

@Michael_R_Grant said:
Is there any way to easily get Apple Music tracks (or just 'commercial songs in general') into the Stem Splitter?

If I wanted a song to split, I had to find it on Youtube, screen record it, extract the audio into Koala, save the Koala sample in Files and then drag that to Logic. Seems like a massive faff! There must be an easier way to get the audio!

A massive faff indeed! I attempted the same task just last night:) I ended up using Transcribe which allows easy import of local Apple Music tracks, importing of audio tracks via Files.app and sharing of stems via Files.app which are then easily dropped into LP4i. The quality of the stems is comparable if not better than the stems produced in LP4i. I've only tested a few in LP4i but have done many using Transcribe.

I will give Twisted Wave a spin, but it seems like one of the 'Major' new features in LP4i is a letdown.

I guess Apple are never going to give us Koala style rip-straight-from-YouTube functionality unfortunately.
I guess it depends on your workflow but I'm happy to keep using Koala to split while I work out if a sample works with a track and then if I think it fits or even needs to be cleaner, I'll split it again on Logic. Sometimes I actually like the digital grunge that Koala gives. Mmmm dirty samples.

I bet in 5-10 years someone will launch an app to give that artifacty, early stem splitter sound, a bit like folks want that 12 bit Akai sample sound.

Dham

@FPC said:

@Dham said:

@Michael_R_Grant said:
Is there any way to easily get Apple Music tracks (or just 'commercial songs in general') into the Stem Splitter?

If I wanted a song to split, I had to find it on Youtube, screen record it, extract the audio into Koala, save the Koala sample in Files and then drag that to Logic. Seems like a massive faff! There must be an easier way to get the audio!

A massive faff indeed! I attempted the same task just last night:) I ended up using Transcribe which allows easy import of local Apple Music tracks, importing of audio tracks via Files.app and sharing of stems via Files.app which are then easily dropped into LP4i. The quality of the stems is comparable if not better than the stems produced in LP4i. I've only tested a few in LP4i but have done many using Transcribe.

I will give Twisted Wave a spin, but it seems like one of the 'Major' new features in LP4i is a letdown.

I guess Apple are never going to give us Koala style rip-straight-from-YouTube functionality unfortunately.
I guess it depends on your workflow but I'm happy to keep using Koala to split while I work out if a sample works with a track and then if I think it fits or even needs to be cleaner, I'll split it again on Logic. Sometimes I actually like the digital grunge that Koala gives. Mmmm dirty samples.

I bet in 5-10 years someone will launch an app to give that artifacty, early stem splitter sound, a bit like folks want that 12 bit Akai sample sound.

For sure. Reminiscent of the great MPC Renaissance Vintage Mode Scandal. Akai led MPC Ren users to believe that it had special A/D converters on the Ren to produce an MPC 3000-like sound when it was actually a software emulation. Lol

HolyMoses

Pretty lame that Apple don’t let us use FLAC audiofiles in Logic Pro on both Mac and iPad - why??

Sure, we can convert them, but I’ve got an big collections of music and loops in Flac format (lossless) so it’s tedious to convert everything…

NeuM

@HolyMoses said:
Pretty lame that Apple don’t let us use FLAC audiofiles in Logic Pro on both Mac and iPad - why??

Sure, we can convert them, but I’ve got an big collections of music and loops in Flac format (lossless) so it’s tedious to convert everything…

I suppose if FLAC was a widely used format Apple might be more interested in working with it?

HolyMoses

@NeuM said:

@HolyMoses said:
Pretty lame that Apple don’t let us use FLAC audiofiles in Logic Pro on both Mac and iPad - why??

Sure, we can convert them, but I’ve got an big collections of music and loops in Flac format (lossless) so it’s tedious to convert everything…

I suppose if FLAC was a widely used format Apple might be more interested in working with it?

Personally, have you or other users here used FLAC?

Almost every music file player, both software and hardware, have support for FLAC.

I subscribe to Tidal Streaming Service, HiFi, and Tidal use FLAC as their lossless file format to the HiFi sub-model.

But, perhaps this is like the conservative approach “we” have to JPG when compressing pictures, albeit there are much better format available today, like JPEG-XL or WEBP…

FPC

@HolyMoses said:

@NeuM said:

@HolyMoses said:
Pretty lame that Apple don’t let us use FLAC audiofiles in Logic Pro on both Mac and iPad - why??

Sure, we can convert them, but I’ve got an big collections of music and loops in Flac format (lossless) so it’s tedious to convert everything…

I suppose if FLAC was a widely used format Apple might be more interested in working with it?

Personally, have you or other users here used FLAC?

Almost every music file player, both software and hardware, have support for FLAC.

I subscribe to Tidal Streaming Service, HiFi, and Tidal use FLAC as their lossless file format to the HiFi sub-model.

But, perhaps this is like the conservative approach “we” have to JPG when compressing pictures, albeit there are much better format available today, like JPEG-XL or WEBP…

I converted my entire CD collection to FLAC so bloody Apple have added another layer of hassle for my shoddy stem split remixes... Probably a good thing really

HolyMoses

@FPC said:

@HolyMoses said:

@NeuM said:

@HolyMoses said:
Pretty lame that Apple don’t let us use FLAC audiofiles in Logic Pro on both Mac and iPad - why??

Sure, we can convert them, but I’ve got an big collections of music and loops in Flac format (lossless) so it’s tedious to convert everything…

I suppose if FLAC was a widely used format Apple might be more interested in working with it?

Personally, have you or other users here used FLAC?

Almost every music file player, both software and hardware, have support for FLAC.

I subscribe to Tidal Streaming Service, HiFi, and Tidal use FLAC as their lossless file format to the HiFi sub-model.

But, perhaps this is like the conservative approach “we” have to JPG when compressing pictures, albeit there are much better format available today, like JPEG-XL or WEBP…

I converted my entire CD collection to FLAC so bloody Apple have added another layer of hassle for my shoddy stem split remixes... Probably a good thing really

As always we have an love & hate relationship with mighty Apple!

yellow_eyez

When I discovered they don’t allow multiple interfaces (for Cubasis 3 or other daws) I severely dislike them now lol, which used to be all love relationship.

That’s the only thing I cared about with the iOS updates, and to see only Logic is allowed to use multiple interfaces is very upsetting.

(I still can’t believe it)

Trentsongs

I hope I didn’t miss this: What is the best way to backup projects with all audio data to an external storage, so that I can free-up space? “iPad Storage” is show 11gb I need in order to do an iOS update.

NeuM

@Trentsongs said:
I hope I didn’t miss this: What is the best way to backup projects with all audio data to an external storage, so that I can free-up space? “iPad Storage” is show 11gb I need in order to do an iOS update.

You could try offloading (not deleting) some large apps until you update.

Go to Settings > General > iPad Storage > Offload Unused Apps

To reinstall an offloaded app, tap on the app icon to download it again. "Offloading" means you are not deleting your data. If you DELETE an app, you get rid of both the app and your data.

BillS

In the new session players, is it possible to record automation of parameters in the session player’s edit window? For example, with the keyboard session player, there is a left hand and a right hand, which you can slide to determine the range of the notes played on the piano keyboard. Can these “hands” movements be automated?

klownshed

@BillS said:
In the new session players, is it possible to record automation of parameters in the session player’s edit window? For example, with the keyboard session player, there is a left hand and a right hand, which you can slide to determine the range of the notes played on the piano keyboard. Can these “hands” movements be automated?

You can’t record the parameters in the player editor window, but you can have as many regions on the track as you like and each region has its own parameters. So if you chop the regions where you want the ‘hands’ to be automated you can achieve the same thing. You can also convert any region to a midi region for further editing.

Another tip which can work for the piano player but is particularly useful for the drummer you can have multiple regions pointing to the same instrument so you can get more control over each part of the kit. For example you can have a simple bass drum and snare part then create a separate region on another track with just hi hats and make the hi hat pattern more complex for example.

If you need to know the hack to create multiple tracks that point to the same instrument in LP4iP I posted a thread showing how to do it. If you search through my discussions you’ll find it :-)

BillS

@klownshed super helpful, thank you so much

Crabman

I did not update yet and have only one question: did the update break anything or everything runs well?

HolyMoses

@Crabman said:
I did not update yet and have only one question: did the update break anything or everything runs well?

For me everything is running well in Logic Pro for iPad…

Also, Session Players seems like a gimmick before we dig deep into the UI for respektive Player - now - I wonder how I could lived without this!

tahiche

@klownshed said:

@BillS said:
In the new session players, is it possible to record automation of parameters in the session player’s edit window? For example, with the keyboard session player, there is a left hand and a right hand, which you can slide to determine the range of the notes played on the piano keyboard. Can these “hands” movements be automated?

You can’t record the parameters in the player editor window, but you can have as many regions on the track as you like and each region has its own parameters. So if you chop the regions where you want the ‘hands’ to be automated you can achieve the same thing. You can also convert any region to a midi region for further editing.

Another tip which can work for the piano player but is particularly useful for the drummer you can have multiple regions pointing to the same instrument so you can get more control over each part of the kit. For example you can have a simple bass drum and snare part then create a separate region on another track with just hi hats and make the hi hat pattern more complex for example.

If you need to know the hack to create multiple tracks that point to the same instrument in LP4iP I posted a thread showing how to do it. If you search through my discussions you’ll find it :-)

I just revisited your hack, amazing that you managed to figure that out.
I can’t understand why these hacks are needed when you should just be able to add sub-tracks pointing to the same instrument. Same as the hack I figured out to be able to automate audio fx tracks via a midi fx (via a stupid workaround adding a compressor in listening mode). All these things are possible, obviously, but they just need a proper UI implementation. Seems like many possibilities are just crippled artificially.

klownshed

@tahiche said:
I just revisited your hack, amazing that you managed to figure that out.

I opened a project I'd made on the Mac that had multiple tracks with the same instrument and it opened fine on the iPad so I went looking for a way to do it without round tripping to the Mac.

Another hack I was quite happy to discover is you can drag MID/Pattern regions into audio tracks. Combine that with the multiple tracks to one channel trick and you can use pattern regions for P-Lock style automation on an audio track.

... Seems like many possibilities are just crippled artificially.

I would argue they've just not got around to implementing the UI on the iPad for every Mac feature (some of which they're more likely to implement in the future than others which we'll never see). There's only so much that will fit and they've made their choices and probably have a prioritised list of what's to come. If they don't I'll eat my iPad.

We're obviously all free to have our own opinions on which features should have made the cut. I'd personally love to see screen sets. It would improve the issue of opening/closing panels on a UI without windows. Being able to switch to screen set dedicated to a particular task full-screen would be great.

I wouldn't expect any of this stuff to be fixed soo. Maybe some tweaks in 6 months then another batch of shiny new stuff that looks good in marketing in a year.

Conversely, I'd like to see LP4iP's plug-in search implemented on Logic Pro 11 on the Mac. I would have bet money that was coming... alas not.

klownshed

@BillS said:
@klownshed super helpful, thank you so much

You're welcome... :-)

HolyMoses

Wonder how the timeline looks for implementing more to Logic for iPad?

Session Player Guitarist?
Full EXS24 sampler with full editing capabilities?
Full UI on Alchemy Synth?

The list can be long, although we have a lot of candy already implemented…

realdawei

Session Player Guitarist would be welcome around these parts.

Just got around to playing the studio basses and pianos today “live” …. Holy cow. Love the quality. No longer craving spectrasonics on iPad

NeuM

@realdawei said:
Session Player Guitarist would be welcome around these parts.

Just got around to playing the studio basses and pianos today “live” …. Holy cow. Love the quality. No longer craving spectrasonics on iPad

If they can make bass and keyboard accompaniment, they can certainly make a rhythm guitarist. A guitar soloist may take a bit longer…