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Fretboard midi controller apps

jklovemusicjklovemusic
in General App Discussion

Fretboard players, please share the pros and cons, tips and tricks and everything about playing fretboard on iPad.

I own 3 such apps, GeoShred, Midi Poly Grid and Velocity Keyboard.

I dropped GeoShred as a chromatic layout controller as it only allow max 6 strings. I only use it to play defined scales as 6 octaves on 6 string is generally enough.

Midi Poly Grid doesn’t offer touch sensitivity but it offer highly configurable fretboard and 5 layouts to be switched on the fly. It also available on Android, good stuff.

For Velocity Keyboard, you can save as many layout u want but u need to dig into menu to switch. It is not a problem as I don’t really have to switch layout during a live performance. And this app is the only touch sensitive fretboard/keyboard app on iOS and I cannot live without it.

I hope VK will somehow implement a doable note by note solution for release velocity then this app will be almost perfect for music performance on iPad.

I noticed Loopy Pro also planned a built in keyboard controller and I hope they will consider a configurable fretboard option too.

Comments

  • jklovemusicjklovemusic

    No guitarist/bassist playing piano style on iPad fretboard?

    I am worried about these apps going out of maintenance sooner or later 🫣

  • HolyMosesHolyMoses

    @jklovemusic said:
    No guitarist/bassist playing piano style on iPad fretboard?

    I am worried about these apps going out of maintenance sooner or later 🫣

    Perhaps you could take your time to make a drawing of the fretboard apps GUI so we really know what’s your desired app look like?

  • jklovemusicjklovemusic

    @HolyMoses said:

    @jklovemusic said:
    No guitarist/bassist playing piano style on iPad fretboard?

    I am worried about these apps going out of maintenance sooner or later 🫣

    Perhaps you could take your time to make a drawing of the fretboard apps GUI so we really know what’s your desired app look like?

    The layout options are good enough. The only missing component is release velocity.

  • HolyMosesHolyMoses

    @jklovemusic said:

    @HolyMoses said:

    @jklovemusic said:
    No guitarist/bassist playing piano style on iPad fretboard?

    I am worried about these apps going out of maintenance sooner or later 🫣

    Perhaps you could take your time to make a drawing of the fretboard apps GUI so we really know what’s your desired app look like?

    The layout options are good enough. The only missing component is release velocity.

    As a keyboard lover I don’t really know what Release Velocity is?
    As I naturally understand, velocity on keyboard contra guitar/bassguitar isn’t the same, but, explain more for us uneducated!

  • bygjohnbygjohn

    I haven’t tied any of the apps you’ve mentioned, but the iFretless apps can be used as controllers, if you haven’t tried them.

  • jklovemusicjklovemusic

    Ya Velocity Keyboard is form the same developer. You can assign any note on any fret. A much better controller than ifretless series

  • tyslothrop1tyslothrop1

    Had to look up release velocity:

    Release velocity is used for modulating the volume of the sound a piano makes when relasing a key. That way a fast release of the key causes a louder playback of the release sample that a has been recorded.

    Probably hard to have exactly like that on a touch screen. Maybe a bit of a workaround for MPE instruments would be to map the parameters you want to control with it to Polyaftertouch or CC74 (for example in midi poly grid or if you want an auv3 kb-1) and move your finger before release in the desired direction.

  • jklovemusicjklovemusic
    edited May 26

    @tyslothrop1 said:
    Had to look up release velocity:

    Release velocity is used for modulating the volume of the sound a piano makes when relasing a key. That way a fast release of the key causes a louder playback of the release sample that a has been recorded.

    Probably hard to have exactly like that on a touch screen. Maybe a bit of a workaround for MPE instruments would be to map the parameters you want to control with it to Polyaftertouch or CC74 (for example in midi poly grid or if you want an auv3 kb-1) and move your finger before release in the desired direction.

    Thanks for your great reply. I actually suggested to the developer that if “release velocity” is enabled and first attack touch stay on the screen, the second touch will trigger the release and assign the release velocity. This only applied to the same fret/pad

  • HolyMosesHolyMoses

    @tyslothrop1 said:
    Had to look up release velocity:

    Release velocity is used for modulating the volume of the sound a piano makes when relasing a key. That way a fast release of the key causes a louder playback of the release sample that a has been recorded.

    Probably hard to have exactly like that on a touch screen. Maybe a bit of a workaround for MPE instruments would be to map the parameters you want to control with it to Polyaftertouch or CC74 (for example in midi poly grid or if you want an auv3 kb-1) and move your finger before release in the desired direction.

    Thanks! <3

  • michael_mmichael_m

    Have you considered audio to MIDI? That way you could just play the stringed instrument you are interested in then use the MIDI to trigger samples.

  • tyslothrop1tyslothrop1

    @jklovemusic said:

    @tyslothrop1 said:
    Had to look up release velocity:

    Release velocity is used for modulating the volume of the sound a piano makes when relasing a key. That way a fast release of the key causes a louder playback of the release sample that a has been recorded.

    Probably hard to have exactly like that on a touch screen. Maybe a bit of a workaround for MPE instruments would be to map the parameters you want to control with it to Polyaftertouch or CC74 (for example in midi poly grid or if you want an auv3 kb-1) and move your finger before release in the desired direction.

    Thanks for your great reply. I actually suggested to the developer that if “release velocity” is enabled and first attack touch stay on the screen, the second touch will trigger the release and assign the release velocity. This only applied to the same fret/pad

    That's a cool idea, maybe with a default value in case there's no second touch. Although you'd have to be quite acrobatic with your fingers if you want to control all notes in a chord and your first ginger covers some ground, so you cannot pick just any value, but only ones that are a bit away from the initial velocity (if I understood you correctly).

    @HolyMoses Cheers :)

  • jklovemusicjklovemusic

    @tyslothrop1 said:

    That's a cool idea, maybe with a default value in case there's no second touch. Although you'd have to be quite acrobatic with your fingers if you want to control all notes in a chord and your first ginger covers some ground, so you cannot pick just any value, but only ones that are a bit away from the initial velocity (if I understood you correctly).

    Just come up with an idea of the release buttons.

    So just like the sustain button, release button is just like an extra pad playing as a normal fret that trigger the release and assign the release velocity value. Ideally both sustain and the release buttons should have 2 each. It’s quite limited to the buttons are only on the left or right hand side.

  • tyslothrop1tyslothrop1

    @jklovemusic said:

    @tyslothrop1 said:

    That's a cool idea, maybe with a default value in case there's no second touch. Although you'd have to be quite acrobatic with your fingers if you want to control all notes in a chord and your first ginger covers some ground, so you cannot pick just any value, but only ones that are a bit away from the initial velocity (if I understood you correctly).

    Just come up with an idea of the release buttons.

    So just like the sustain button, release button is just like an extra pad playing as a normal fret that trigger the release and assign the release velocity value. Ideally both sustain and the release buttons should have 2 each. It’s quite limited to the buttons are only on the left or right hand side.

    Ah, ok. I thought you meant a second touch on the same key triggering the release velocity. So you mean one value for all playing notes? I like the idea to have buttons on both sides.

  • jklovemusicjklovemusic

    @tyslothrop1 said:

    Ah, ok. I thought you meant a second touch on the same key triggering the release velocity. So you mean one value for all playing notes? I like the idea to have buttons on both sides.

    Yes, when the default release is not suitable, we can trigger a softer or stronger release when needed. My old idea cannot handle chords as you said.

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