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Midi editing is laggy for long song
Hello everyone.
Does anyone also have lag during midi editing in a song that is a bit long?
I have a title of around 6 minutes, a drum track of the same length, as soon as I want to edit a part, I click to add a note, there is a delay between the moment I click and the note appears , and it's even worse if I want to delete a note.
If anyone has a viable solution, I'm interested.
Thank you so much
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No problem like that on both my iPads, regular and pro. Only issue is the regular iPad running out of memory pretty quick.
I made a test as well - loaded an Billy Joel piano Midi-file, 5 minute long, pretty amount of midi data…
Tested with a iPad Pro 12.9” M1 512GB, running iPadOS 18 beta1 - everything smooth as hell!
No tendency of lagging or other disturbances…
Have you tried another MIDI-file to edit?
Thank you for your answers.
I have an iPad pro m1 11 inch, if that helps.
It's not an imported midi file, it's a file that I created for the needs of the song, and I specify that when playing, everything works perfectly, it's really when I want to edit the midi notes , create and delete, because if I just move them, it doesn't lag.
I have already uninstalled and reinstalled, I even gave up on the first version, because it did the same thing to me.
I also specify that I am up to date with the system.
I made a video, screenshot to show the lag if that helps find a solution.
Have you tried chopping up the entire midi-performance into different sections to see if it makes any difference?
Keeping the more recent iPad's up-to-date when it comes to iPadOS can actually make a difference.
(The computer analogy here would be that even if the 'core os' is more or less the same on the various devices, the 'drivers' are specific for each model).
Earlier this year made a 8min+ long track with MIDI track sequencing one of my drum library inside Audiolayer. It worked without a single hiccup
Thanks,
yes I tried to modify the length of the midi parts, small and large, and it doesn't change anything.
I'm in 17.5 and I saw that there is 17.5.1, I'm updating right away.
I hope this will help.
EDIT:
Lag again in last 17.5.1
EDIT2:
The drum track is native drums inside Logic, can i upload in any way the files here?
I have tested with a new project, the edit is ok until the number of midi note is high.
I play metal, and i have huge number of midi note for the drums, but i don’t think is because of the number of midi note. I continue to search.
@meddy64 You can upload it as a zip file here.
A bit offtopic but Imaginando LK had an update that now allows for displaying and editing much more busy and longer MIDI files than in earlier versions. It used to be very laggy but that has changed completely here.
Thanks,
In LK, i dont remember if we can record audio?
I have upload the files if this can help.
OK, loaded this in Nanostudio 2, Xequence 2, Cubasis 3 and LK (had to pick a single track to make it load in LK) and all worked fine in editing without any lags.
Cannot test with Logic but at least the others work well.
I have no problem with this daw either, because I usually write my drums on nanostudio 2, the midi edition is perfect, but the native audio tracks are missing!
And the others I haven't tested them all, just Cubasis with which I have already made a complete album on a single project.
The reason I would use Logic is that it has all the functionality (tempo track, bpm track) I need right there on it.
I will try to find a solution.
Thanks again!
Nanostudio 2 has one important feature that allows you to record audio while playing back your arrangement:
Slate can sample to pads during playback.
It's more like an MPC style workflow but works perfectly if you can accept recording audio clips this way, and in contrast to classic DAWs, each clip/pad has its own fully parametric EQ and waveshaper, in addition to the 4 effect buses on each Slate track.
The Nanostudio features is cool but i want to record with track fx in real time, i have tested MTS too, it’s cool software, but limited to 64 tracks.
I have search for the same thing in other daw ( in Reaper ), and the solution of the same « problem » is to not open the full midi song in the editor, but only the part he is working on, any posibility to do the same in Logic?
If you now have really big/long Midi-songs to edit into Logic Pro for iPad, why not split it up in several tracks (or track stack) so the song is several ”snippets”?
Looking at the MIDI file @meddy64 posted, it's a multitrack project, not too busy so nothing that Logic should ever struggle with. It really sounds like an issue with Logic on iPad.
I'm only using Logic Pro on desktop and it loads and edits flawlessly here.
@meddy64 Can you back up your project then try removing all instruments from tracks so you have pure MIDI tracks without generating sound, and see if note creation and deletion still lags?
Thank you for your answers.
I tried to leave only the drum track, it does the same thing too.
I also tried to import a midi file with a lot of notes, a classic title, Mozart, it didn't lag, so I copied everything and pasted it twice following the same project, and there laggy again.
I tried to modify the midi screen information, same colors for velocity, and all in midi 1 ( in the setting i desactivate the midi 2.0 option ) but without success.
I can understand that with a project lasting several hours in the same Logic files, but in a 6’ min ( it is not so long) project … hehe.
Yes, in desktop all is good, i’m working on a full album, 56’ min, in a one Reaper project more than 120 tracks, more than 130 vst and full pro drums vst on 10 track, all is fine.
In cubasis is the same, 35’ min projet, 67 tracks with 20 auv3 drum and synth and 109 fx, run ok, little laggy when i dezoom, but edition is working.
I will try to send a mail to apple, for explain the « problem ».