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JAX ONE Frequency Shifter

https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/jax-one-frequency-shifter/id6503347833

I think everyone’s too scared to make a thread for this one… I’m trying the TestFlight beta for it (link in AppStore description).

How do you utilize what look like patch cable jacks (ENV, LFO, DLY)?

Comments

  • @gusgranite said:
    https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/jax-one-frequency-shifter/id6503347833

    I think everyone’s too scared to make a thread for this one… I’m trying the TestFlight beta for it (link in AppStore description).

    How do you utilize what look like patch cable jacks (ENV, LFO, DLY)?

    Brave man! I think they're just decorative, tbh, but I have not read the manual yet. Seems like if they did anything, it would just be a matter of pressing on one jack and dragging to another, but that doesn't work. I do really appreciate that the dev keeps open betas for these, and I like the sounds this app can make.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @gusgranite said:
    https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/jax-one-frequency-shifter/id6503347833

    I think everyone’s too scared to make a thread for this one… I’m trying the TestFlight beta for it (link in AppStore description).

    How do you utilize what look like patch cable jacks (ENV, LFO, DLY)?

    Brave man! I think they're just decorative, tbh, but I have not read the manual yet. Seems like if they did anything, it would just be a matter of pressing on one jack and dragging to another, but that doesn't work. I do really appreciate that the dev keeps open betas for these, and I like the sounds this app can make.

    They do seem to be decorative. I wonder why they’re labeled in that case?

    Ok, will have more of a play.

  • I have the idea that’s still something he is working on?

  • edited July 2

    I’m really glad the developer allowed us to beta test this. It’s a $35 CDN app and up against some really stiff competition when it comes to frequency shifters on iOS. I have tested it against Frekvens, Discord4, MagicPitch, Motion FX. Theres also modules in Drambo and MiRack supposedly but haven’t tried those.

    So this JAX one sounds good. The Scale control is really interesting and I’m not sure the other apps have that. However, I have always struggled with the JAX user interfaces. There’s a brightness slider but this goes from quite dark to bright but with heavy shadows. I also find the unfeeze 3D modelling effect fun but ultimately just eye candy that doesn’t add anything to the workflow.

    The scale controls are where it’s at but that’s not enough to pay $35 when I already have the above frequency shifters.

  • I agree with all that. I think the frequency shifting in this is excellent (though it still makes a tiny noise when crossing zero), but it is priced at a level that will likely mean extemely few sales in this market. That's not a subjective opinion, it's a fact. > @gusgranite said:

    I’m really glad the developer allowed us to beta test this. It’s a $35 CDN app and up against some really stiff competition when it comes to frequency shifters on iOS. I have tested it against Frekvens, Discord4, MagicPitch, Motion FX. Theres also modules in Drambo and MiRack supposedly but haven’t tried those.

    So this JAX one sounds good. The Scale control is really interesting and I’m not sure the other apps have that. However, I have always struggled with the JAX user interfaces. There’s a brightness slider but this goes from quite dark to bright but with heavy shadows. I also find the unfeeze 3D modelling effect fun but ultimately just eye candy that doesn’t add anything to the workflow.

    The scale controls are where it’s at but that’s not enough to pay $35 when I already have the above frequency shifters.

    +1 to all that

  • This app was discussed briefly in the Sales thread...it was compared favourably with Echobode, one of my favourite VSTs. I really like the demos on Youtube but haven't pulled the trigger yet to buy due to the reported clicking and the fact I have several other similar apps...still very curious about this one though

  • @drewinnit said:
    This app was discussed briefly in the Sales thread...it was compared favourably with Echobode, one of my favourite VSTs. I really like the demos on Youtube but haven't pulled the trigger yet to buy due to the reported clicking and the fact I have several other similar apps...still very curious about this one though

    You don't need to pull the trigger before buying, that's the beauty of having the beta access. Maybe you will still find a working link on audio.digitster.com

  • @gusgranite said:
    I’m really glad the developer allowed us to beta test this. It’s a $35 CDN app and up against some really stiff competition when it comes to frequency shifters on iOS. I have tested it against Frekvens, Discord4, MagicPitch, Motion FX. Theres also modules in Drambo and MiRack supposedly but haven’t tried those.

    So this JAX one sounds good. The Scale control is really interesting and I’m not sure the other apps have that. However, I have always struggled with the JAX user interfaces. There’s a brightness slider but this goes from quite dark to bright but with heavy shadows. I also find the unfeeze 3D modelling effect fun but ultimately just eye candy that doesn’t add anything to the workflow.

    The scale controls are where it’s at but that’s not enough to pay $35 when I already have the above frequency shifters.

    Drambo is quite good but cant compare to any freq shifter.

    I use on a per track drum machine basis of 10 fac drum ( or blipbox ) au instances and gain a lazy way to program drums or p lock drums.

    The freq shifter is better than fac drums own pitch amount.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @drewinnit said:
    This app was discussed briefly in the Sales thread...it was compared favourably with Echobode, one of my favourite VSTs. I really like the demos on Youtube but haven't pulled the trigger yet to buy due to the reported clicking and the fact I have several other similar apps...still very curious about this one though

    You don't need to pull the trigger before buying, that's the beauty of having the beta access. Maybe you will still find a working link on audio.digitster.com

    good point Gav, I did just check the website and I think i've missed the opportunity but i'll keep an eye on it for future betas that take my fancy

    i did notice this release note from 2.02

    • we corrected a problem (popping) with signal discontinuity due to separated stereo delay processors for up- and down-shift.

    i guess you've got the latest version and the issue persists?

  • @drewinnit said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @drewinnit said:
    This app was discussed briefly in the Sales thread...it was compared favourably with Echobode, one of my favourite VSTs. I really like the demos on Youtube but haven't pulled the trigger yet to buy due to the reported clicking and the fact I have several other similar apps...still very curious about this one though

    You don't need to pull the trigger before buying, that's the beauty of having the beta access. Maybe you will still find a working link on audio.digitster.com

    good point Gav, I did just check the website and I think i've missed the opportunity but i'll keep an eye on it for future betas that take my fancy

    i did notice this release note from 2.02

    • we corrected a problem (popping) with signal discontinuity due to separated stereo delay processors for up- and down-shift.

    i guess you've got the latest version and the issue persists?

    Sadly, yes, on latest version. It is better than before, but I wouldn’t call it corrected, it is definitely still there.

  • https://testflight.apple.com/join/EW4JBlfx

    Test flight is still up. All the test flights are here: https://audio.digitster.com/testflight-betas

    Again, I salute the dev for allowing people to demo the apps via test flight, that’s great

  • @Gavinski said:
    https://testflight.apple.com/join/EW4JBlfx

    Test flight is still up. All the test flights are here: https://audio.digitster.com/testflight-betas

    Again, I salute the dev for allowing people to demo the apps via test flight, that’s great

    Indeed! If only we could all be friends :D

  • @Gavinski said:
    https://testflight.apple.com/join/EW4JBlfx

    Test flight is still up. All the test flights are here: https://audio.digitster.com/testflight-betas

    Again, I salute the dev for allowing people to demo the apps via test flight, that’s great

    Knobs are not capable of multi touch. If I try and adjust LFO rate at the same time as the Frequency knob, one knob freezes while the other jitters about like mad. Every app designed for iOS should be multitouch capable.

  • edited July 2

    An observation about the clicking when crossing zero on Frequency knob - it seems more noticeable on some Scale types than others. More noticeable on Log than on 5k Hz, for example. Edit - no, it’s pretty obvious on that too if moving quickly.

  • edited July 2

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:
    https://testflight.apple.com/join/EW4JBlfx

    Test flight is still up. All the test flights are here: https://audio.digitster.com/testflight-betas

    Again, I salute the dev for allowing people to demo the apps via test flight, that’s great

    Knobs are not capable of multi touch. If I try and adjust LFO rate at the same time as the Frequency knob, one knob freezes while the other jitters about like mad. Every app designed for iOS should be multitouch capable.

    This has been the case since the first JAX plugin. They prioritise being able to zoom in and move around with ‘standard’ iPad gestures over being able to simultaneously adjust multiple parameters.

    The new UIs take this one step further and you can move them around in 3D.

    I know what id prefer multitouch to do in the UIs. The developer knows what he prefers too. :) and apparently it’s a scalable moveable in 3D UI.They’re his plugins after all.

  • @klownshed said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:
    https://testflight.apple.com/join/EW4JBlfx

    Test flight is still up. All the test flights are here: https://audio.digitster.com/testflight-betas

    Again, I salute the dev for allowing people to demo the apps via test flight, that’s great

    Knobs are not capable of multi touch. If I try and adjust LFO rate at the same time as the Frequency knob, one knob freezes while the other jitters about like mad. Every app designed for iOS should be multitouch capable.

    This has been the case since the first JAX plugin. They prioritise being able to zoom in and move around with ‘standard’ iPad gestures over being able to simultaneously adjust multiple parameters.

    The new UIs take this one step further and you can move them around in 3D.

    I know what id prefer multitouch to do in the UIs. The developer knows what he prefers too. :) and apparently it’s a scalable moveable in 3D UI.They’re his plugins after all.

    Definitely not a trade-off I would make. Think I have to move on and forget about these, too many issues

  • @Gavinski said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:
    https://testflight.apple.com/join/EW4JBlfx

    Test flight is still up. All the test flights are here: https://audio.digitster.com/testflight-betas

    Again, I salute the dev for allowing people to demo the apps via test flight, that’s great

    Knobs are not capable of multi touch. If I try and adjust LFO rate at the same time as the Frequency knob, one knob freezes while the other jitters about like mad. Every app designed for iOS should be multitouch capable.

    This has been the case since the first JAX plugin. They prioritise being able to zoom in and move around with ‘standard’ iPad gestures over being able to simultaneously adjust multiple parameters.

    The new UIs take this one step further and you can move them around in 3D.

    I know what id prefer multitouch to do in the UIs. The developer knows what he prefers too. :) and apparently it’s a scalable moveable in 3D UI.They’re his plugins after all.

    Definitely not a trade-off I would make. Think I have to move on and forget about these, too many issues

    I don’t know if you can adjust multiple parameters simultaneously if you press the freeze button? In JAX plugins, the freeze button locks the UI. :-/

  • @klownshed said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:
    https://testflight.apple.com/join/EW4JBlfx

    Test flight is still up. All the test flights are here: https://audio.digitster.com/testflight-betas

    Again, I salute the dev for allowing people to demo the apps via test flight, that’s great

    Knobs are not capable of multi touch. If I try and adjust LFO rate at the same time as the Frequency knob, one knob freezes while the other jitters about like mad. Every app designed for iOS should be multitouch capable.

    This has been the case since the first JAX plugin. They prioritise being able to zoom in and move around with ‘standard’ iPad gestures over being able to simultaneously adjust multiple parameters.

    The new UIs take this one step further and you can move them around in 3D.

    I know what id prefer multitouch to do in the UIs. The developer knows what he prefers too. :) and apparently it’s a scalable moveable in 3D UI.They’re his plugins after all.

    Definitely not a trade-off I would make. Think I have to move on and forget about these, too many issues

    I don’t know if you can adjust multiple parameters simultaneously if you press the freeze button? In JAX plugins, the freeze button locks the UI. :-/

    Freeze is on by default, so no. Freeze function, in this plugin at least, is to stop touches making the UI rotate in 3D - a cool-looking but essentially useless feature. I can’t see a way to get it to respond to multi-touch

  • edited July 2

    @Gavinski said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:
    https://testflight.apple.com/join/EW4JBlfx

    Test flight is still up. All the test flights are here: https://audio.digitster.com/testflight-betas

    Again, I salute the dev for allowing people to demo the apps via test flight, that’s great

    Knobs are not capable of multi touch. If I try and adjust LFO rate at the same time as the Frequency knob, one knob freezes while the other jitters about like mad. Every app designed for iOS should be multitouch capable.

    This has been the case since the first JAX plugin. They prioritise being able to zoom in and move around with ‘standard’ iPad gestures over being able to simultaneously adjust multiple parameters.

    The new UIs take this one step further and you can move them around in 3D.

    I know what id prefer multitouch to do in the UIs. The developer knows what he prefers too. :) and apparently it’s a scalable moveable in 3D UI.They’re his plugins after all.

    Definitely not a trade-off I would make. Think I have to move on and forget about these, too many issues

    I don’t know if you can adjust multiple parameters simultaneously if you press the freeze button? In JAX plugins, the freeze button locks the UI. :-/

    Freeze is on by default, so no. Freeze function, in this plugin at least, is to stop touches making the UI rotate in 3D - a cool-looking but essentially useless feature. I can’t see a way to get it to respond to multi-touch

    I thought not. I don’t have any JAX plugins installed anymore and couldn’t remember. I didn’t think multi touch was available — which would be really useful.

  • @klownshed said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:
    https://testflight.apple.com/join/EW4JBlfx

    Test flight is still up. All the test flights are here: https://audio.digitster.com/testflight-betas

    Again, I salute the dev for allowing people to demo the apps via test flight, that’s great

    Knobs are not capable of multi touch. If I try and adjust LFO rate at the same time as the Frequency knob, one knob freezes while the other jitters about like mad. Every app designed for iOS should be multitouch capable.

    This has been the case since the first JAX plugin. They prioritise being able to zoom in and move around with ‘standard’ iPad gestures over being able to simultaneously adjust multiple parameters.

    The new UIs take this one step further and you can move them around in 3D.

    I know what id prefer multitouch to do in the UIs. The developer knows what he prefers too. :) and apparently it’s a scalable moveable in 3D UI.They’re his plugins after all.

    Definitely not a trade-off I would make. Think I have to move on and forget about these, too many issues

    I don’t know if you can adjust multiple parameters simultaneously if you press the freeze button? In JAX plugins, the freeze button locks the UI. :-/

    Freeze is on by default, so no. Freeze function, in this plugin at least, is to stop touches making the UI rotate in 3D - a cool-looking but essentially useless feature. I can’t see a way to get it to respond to multi-touch

    I thought not. I don’t have any JAX plugins installed anymore and couldn’t remember. I didn’t think multi touch was available — which would be really useful.

    Multi touch is not a ‘nice-to-have’ as far as I’m concerned, yeah - it’s kind of a right, really, when it comes to iOS music software, one of the main advantages we have over desktop. It genuinely really bothers me when devs don’t implement it.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:
    https://testflight.apple.com/join/EW4JBlfx

    Test flight is still up. All the test flights are here: https://audio.digitster.com/testflight-betas

    Again, I salute the dev for allowing people to demo the apps via test flight, that’s great

    Knobs are not capable of multi touch. If I try and adjust LFO rate at the same time as the Frequency knob, one knob freezes while the other jitters about like mad. Every app designed for iOS should be multitouch capable.

    This has been the case since the first JAX plugin. They prioritise being able to zoom in and move around with ‘standard’ iPad gestures over being able to simultaneously adjust multiple parameters.

    The new UIs take this one step further and you can move them around in 3D.

    I know what id prefer multitouch to do in the UIs. The developer knows what he prefers too. :) and apparently it’s a scalable moveable in 3D UI.They’re his plugins after all.

    Definitely not a trade-off I would make. Think I have to move on and forget about these, too many issues

    I don’t know if you can adjust multiple parameters simultaneously if you press the freeze button? In JAX plugins, the freeze button locks the UI. :-/

    Freeze is on by default, so no. Freeze function, in this plugin at least, is to stop touches making the UI rotate in 3D - a cool-looking but essentially useless feature. I can’t see a way to get it to respond to multi-touch

    I thought not. I don’t have any JAX plugins installed anymore and couldn’t remember. I didn’t think multi touch was available — which would be really useful.

    Multi touch is not a ‘nice-to-have’ as far as I’m concerned, yeah - it’s kind of a right, really, when it comes to iOS music software, one of the main advantages we have over desktop. It genuinely really bothers me when devs don’t implement it.

    But think how much better your mixes will be if all your plugins can be rotated to a jaunty angle! ;)

  • @Gavinski said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:
    https://testflight.apple.com/join/EW4JBlfx

    Test flight is still up. All the test flights are here: https://audio.digitster.com/testflight-betas

    Again, I salute the dev for allowing people to demo the apps via test flight, that’s great

    Knobs are not capable of multi touch. If I try and adjust LFO rate at the same time as the Frequency knob, one knob freezes while the other jitters about like mad. Every app designed for iOS should be multitouch capable.

    This has been the case since the first JAX plugin. They prioritise being able to zoom in and move around with ‘standard’ iPad gestures over being able to simultaneously adjust multiple parameters.

    The new UIs take this one step further and you can move them around in 3D.

    I know what id prefer multitouch to do in the UIs. The developer knows what he prefers too. :) and apparently it’s a scalable moveable in 3D UI.They’re his plugins after all.

    Definitely not a trade-off I would make. Think I have to move on and forget about these, too many issues

    I don’t know if you can adjust multiple parameters simultaneously if you press the freeze button? In JAX plugins, the freeze button locks the UI. :-/

    Freeze is on by default, so no. Freeze function, in this plugin at least, is to stop touches making the UI rotate in 3D - a cool-looking but essentially useless feature. I can’t see a way to get it to respond to multi-touch

    From the Jax webpage blog post "JAX ONE – Frequency Shifter Extended (scheduled super universal release)":

    Our new user interfaces for the JAX ONE series are all based on real 3D environments and will render all graphics in realtime. Rather than using stitched still images captured from parallel camera projection, the 3D views allow any projection and movement of lights and so on, although this may be limited for useful perspectives finally.

    𝗕𝗲𝗰𝗮𝘂𝘀𝗲 𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝗮𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗼 𝘂𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗯𝗮𝗯𝗹𝘆 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗻𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗴𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗮 𝟯𝗗 𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗶𝗿 𝘀𝗮𝘂𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗴𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗽𝗿𝗲𝗰𝗶𝘀𝗲𝗹𝘆 𝗶𝗻 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗷𝘂𝗻𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗺𝗮𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝘂𝘀𝗶𝗰. 𝗨𝘀𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗮𝗹𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗽𝗹𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗲𝗱 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗿 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗳𝗮𝗰𝗲𝘀, 𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝘄𝗮𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗘𝘅𝗰𝗲𝗹 𝘀𝗽𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝘀𝗵𝗲𝗲𝘁𝘀 𝗮𝘀 𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗿 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗳𝗮𝗰𝗲𝘀.

    However, we have a completely different philosophy and we always love trying out and experimenting with new solutions."

    Sigh.. :D

  • @Icoustik said:
    ... 𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝘄𝗮𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗘𝘅𝗰𝗲𝗹 𝘀𝗽𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝘀𝗵𝗲𝗲𝘁𝘀 𝗮𝘀 𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗿 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗳𝗮𝗰𝗲𝘀.

    There you go @CaelumAudio - inspiration for next year's joke day plugin.

  • @wim said:

    @Icoustik said:
    ... 𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝘄𝗮𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗘𝘅𝗰𝗲𝗹 𝘀𝗽𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝘀𝗵𝗲𝗲𝘁𝘀 𝗮𝘀 𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗿 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗳𝗮𝗰𝗲𝘀.

    There you go @CaelumAudio - inspiration for next year's joke day plugin.

  • edited July 2

    @Gavinski said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:
    https://testflight.apple.com/join/EW4JBlfx

    Test flight is still up. All the test flights are here: https://audio.digitster.com/testflight-betas

    Again, I salute the dev for allowing people to demo the apps via test flight, that’s great

    Knobs are not capable of multi touch. If I try and adjust LFO rate at the same time as the Frequency knob, one knob freezes while the other jitters about like mad. Every app designed for iOS should be multitouch capable.

    This has been the case since the first JAX plugin. They prioritise being able to zoom in and move around with ‘standard’ iPad gestures over being able to simultaneously adjust multiple parameters.

    The new UIs take this one step further and you can move them around in 3D.

    I know what id prefer multitouch to do in the UIs. The developer knows what he prefers too. :) and apparently it’s a scalable moveable in 3D UI.They’re his plugins after all.

    Definitely not a trade-off I would make. Think I have to move on and forget about these, too many issues

    I don’t know if you can adjust multiple parameters simultaneously if you press the freeze button? In JAX plugins, the freeze button locks the UI. :-/

    Freeze is on by default, so no. Freeze function, in this plugin at least, is to stop touches making the UI rotate in 3D - a cool-looking but essentially useless feature. I can’t see a way to get it to respond to multi-touch

    I thought not. I don’t have any JAX plugins installed anymore and couldn’t remember. I didn’t think multi touch was available — which would be really useful.

    Multi touch is not a ‘nice-to-have’ as far as I’m concerned, yeah - it’s kind of a right, really, when it comes to iOS music software, one of the main advantages we have over desktop. It genuinely really bothers me when devs don’t implement it.

    Well I think he's reading right now - he updated the rants page on his site and has added a section mentioning you by name, which wasn't there when I previously read that page yesterday-ish :/ Rather uncalled-for stuff, so dramatic.

  • wimwim
    edited July 3

    Ooooh. I wanna be internet famous too. Maybe I shouldn't have deleted my earlier post. 🧐

    All kidding aside, that rant blog post is epic. I do appreciate people unafraid to freely speak their mind in this day and age. I hope it's therapeutic in some way.

  • Seriously… @Michael doesn’t need this. Best to avoid.

  • @McD said:
    Seriously… @Michael doesn’t need this. Best to avoid.

    Agreed

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